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Russia Bernd 2021-08-14 12:43:52 ⋅ 2y No. 119878
Is Socialism with Chinese characteristics the way of the future?
Germany Bernd 2021-08-14 12:52:54 ⋅ 2y No. 119880
>>119878 >Socialism with Chinese characteristics This is a propaganda term, there is nothing socialist about China. China is a country that embraces Authoritarian capitalism and imperialism. So let's assume this is what they mean by "Socialism with Chinese characteristics". Is this the future? No, of course not, because it's a system that is only applicable to China and the Chinese people.
Russia Bernd 2021-08-14 13:35:19 ⋅ 2y No. 119886
>>119880 Can we discuss it in good faith? For example how would you call village relocation programs in China where they take remote villages and just gift them property in the city, trying to improve life? In some country like USA no one would do this, because if they are poor and live in village that is their problem, government doesn't have to help them. In some cases government of China even gives people appartment+furniture inside Thats crazy, in capitalist societies you either work and compete in the market or you die.
Finland Bernd 2021-08-14 13:57:18 ⋅ 2y No. 119889
Yes, themost important one of these Chinese characteristics being automation
Norway Bernd 2021-08-14 13:58:34 ⋅ 2y No. 119890
I want a confucian China with christian characteristics
Germany Bernd 2021-08-14 14:01:40 ⋅ 2y No. 119891
>>119886 >Thats crazy, in capitalist societies you either work and compete in the market or you die. It's the same in China. Don't be ridiculous. An Authoritarian government resettling and relocating population is not necessarily socialist. There are million of counter examples to refute the Chinese claim of socialists. For example, in a Socialist society there would be no Millionaires or Billionaires that live in luxury houses while the majority of Chinese are relatively poor and work as peasants or in factories. Of course, the situation of Chinese improved and they're today much wealthier than half a century ago, but I don't like it that China is depicted as a Socialist utopia, because it is not. Will the country continue being successful? Maybe. But the government should always serve the people and living oppressed, not being able to criticise the government or speaking your mind freely is not a worthy life.
Russia Bernd 2021-08-14 14:09:03 ⋅ 2y No. 119896
>>119891 Yet, we have seen recently in China that the government doesn't spare its billionaires. A lot of people in the West lamented Jack Ma fate, but wasn't it a clear indication that the government is not ruled by tech bilionaires who are untouchable and can do whatever they want, accumulating power with no limits? >not being able to criticise the government or speaking your mind freely is not a worthy life Its a downside, but in some cases free speech is exploited by outsiders who find these criticizing figures and give them money in hopes of destabilizing the government. You want example? Look at this this cursed video Westerners literally give tonns of money and publicity to a bunch of crazy cunts singing shitty songs against Putin. Even their name Pussy riot - literally Crazy Vagina. if China would have free speech, then western countries would found similar crazy vaginas and dicks in China and give them billions in hopes of them overthrowing regime they don't like.
Russia Bernd 2021-08-14 14:16:57 ⋅ 2y No. 119899
>>119890 >with christian characteristics Why? We have seen christian characteristics everywhere already. Everyone just wearing boring dresses and worships Israel. Besides, every time Christianity enters a country it merges with local beliefs sometimes producing fanatics and crazy people. Read a lot of this shit
Germany Bernd 2021-08-14 14:22:24 ⋅ 2y No. 119900
>>119896 They suppress Jack Ma because he probably doesn't fit into regime politics. In China not the people rule, but the Party. The Party is an Authoritarian abomination that is only so much interested in the wellbeing of the people as their power is stable. Also, don't you see that the existence of billionaires is the problem in the first place? >government is not ruled by tech bilionaires who are untouchable and can do whatever they want, accumulating power with no limits? Yes, because that role is occupied by the power hungry party! Sure, the West is just as non-Socialist as China. Do you know why China and other authoritarian dictatorships are really afraid of freedom in general and freedom of speech specifically? Because this could attack their power. Socialism should be for the wellbeing of the people, and not be used as the tool of a small elite that live in luxury circumstances while the majority of population is not.
Russia Bernd 2021-08-14 15:20:33 ⋅ 2y No. 119909
>>119900 > that role is occupied by the power hungry party! As it should be. Only a powerfull party can keep together country of 1.4billion people and run it effectively. And that efficiency ensures the wellbeing of the people. The Chinese people for example now live better than they ever lived, having the most literacy and life expectancy in their country's history. This should be on higher priority than the ability to consume some western degenerate entertainment and freedom of trashing the country because you want more ability to spread ideas undermining the wellbeing of people.
Slovenia Bernd 2021-08-14 16:20:24 ⋅ 2y No. 119914
"Chinese characteristics" is basically an euphemism for corruption, tbh
United States Bernd 2021-08-14 16:38:51 ⋅ 2y No. 119917
Hoxha had socialism figured out tbh
Finland Bernd 2021-08-14 20:51:49 ⋅ 2y No. 119950
>>119914 It is a euphemism for market economy
Slovenia Bernd 2021-08-14 20:58:26 ⋅ 2y No. 119952
>>119950 That'd be Titoism
United States Bernd 2021-08-14 22:51:42 ⋅ 2y No. 119973
>>119952 Communism with Balkan characteristics is just sleeping all day you lazy wop
Slovenia Bernd 2021-08-14 23:16:52 ⋅ 2y No. 119977
>>119973 While eating more than Americans do. Well, our food intake was the highest in the world at the time, in fact.
United States Bernd 2021-10-01 04:32:48 ⋅ 2y No. 123689
>>119950 So much corruption it turns into a parody of a market economy
Hong Kong Bernd 2021-10-11 08:48:02 ⋅ 2y No. 124566
dont think so
China Bernd 2021-10-11 08:51:04 ⋅ 2y No. 124567
Chinese gov is very wary of this phenomenon,in fact
China Bernd 2021-10-11 08:57:40 ⋅ 2y No. 124568
cauz Chinese themselves scold every day if Chinese characteristics being automation,people will revolt
China Bernd 2021-10-11 08:57:58 ⋅ 2y No. 124569
I mean ourselve
China Bernd 2021-10-11 09:04:48 ⋅ 2y No. 124571
>>119891 not ture.Stereotype. Chinese government has greater administrative power, but there are many channels for people to discuss politics. such as “科学发展观”(Scientific outlook on development )in 2003 is allowed to some captalism economy,beacuse according to Marxism,there must be primitive accumulation to develop productive forces and reach the stage of higer socialism. so in 2014 “科学发展观” Switch to 反腐败,anti phenomenon,because the mission of develop productivity can temporarily slow down.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 09:05:57 ⋅ 2y No. 124572
>>119891 so not Authoritarian governmen,just social science.Maybe not so emotional, but correct and rational
China Bernd 2021-10-11 09:07:47 ⋅ 2y No. 124573
>>119891 I feel that authoritarianism is based on objective correctness. If it is not objectively correct but only authoritarian, the Chinese would not support them in doing so.


Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 10:41:34 ⋅ 2y
No. 124575
>>124567 >>124568 >>124569 >>124571 >>124572 >>124573 are you hongkong or chyna?
Norway Bernd 2021-10-11 11:22:29 ⋅ 2y No. 124576
>>124575 Trick question. Hongkong is China. Tibet is China. Taiwan is a chinese island.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 21:15:04 ⋅ 2y No. 124581
>>124575 I fogot to switch my VPN.The HK guy is me. I'm from Zhejiang province,China,cauz I found that krautchan didn't muted by govenment :v
China Bernd 2021-10-11 21:17:53 ⋅ 2y No. 124582
>>124575 I come here for learn germany but you all use English :v
China Bernd 2021-10-11 21:21:03 ⋅ 2y No. 124583
>>124576 True,thanks
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 21:29:36 ⋅ 2y No. 124585
>>124582 >for learn germany learn english first bro, german is useless anyway
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 21:30:15 ⋅ 2y No. 124586
>>124581 nice, welcome to the club
New Zealand Bernd 2021-10-11 21:34:47 ⋅ 2y No. 124589
>>124586 I've got £20 saying he's somehow tied to the ccp or going to get sent to an education camp within a few months.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 22:33:45 ⋅ 2y No. 124602
>>124589 It seems that New Zealand capitalism gov does not have compulsory education for all,This is why the New Zealand media can brainwash you. I'm talking about the knowledge that Chinese high school can teach :)
China Bernd 2021-10-11 22:34:01 ⋅ 2y No. 124603
>>124586 thx
China Bernd 2021-10-11 22:34:44 ⋅ 2y No. 124604
>>124589 This is common sense in China, and any high school student who has received compulsory education can tell.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 22:36:25 ⋅ 2y No. 124605
>>124585 Ach,aber Ich habe den englischen SAT Band 4 belegt, muss aber nach Deutschland gehen, um einen Master zu machen
China Bernd 2021-10-11 22:40:24 ⋅ 2y No. 124607
>>124585 I don’t think so. I even think that in the future international situation, the US will have a civil war because another economic crisis, and Germany or Franch will lead the rise of Europe. For future I will learn Germany more haha
Slovenia Bernd 2021-10-11 22:42:10 ⋅ 2y No. 124609
>>124581 epick
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 22:48:30 ⋅ 2y No. 124611
>>124607 based
China Bernd 2021-10-11 22:49:44 ⋅ 2y No. 124612
>>124611 emhmm,thx for mention
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 22:50:33 ⋅ 2y No. 124613
>>124589 nah man i'd rather have you playing something for me :>
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 22:52:24 ⋅ 2y No. 124614
>>124612 我不会説中文 我少々出来解読漢字
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:11:20 ⋅ 2y No. 124620
>>119880 Maybe,a little bit true.There is a political division within China same like another country. Left side is Maoist,Xi's suppoter,and Maxist,or Leninst,we want anti-corruption, common prosperity, anti-imperialist,science communism Right side is Nationalism or capitalistm or liberalism,they want maintain economic dominance, develop monopoly and imperialism, step on the people,even restoring the Qing Empire or Ming Empire. we also often quarrels online,小粉红,维稳派 are right.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:12:09 ⋅ 2y No. 124621
>>124620 保皇党 are right side too
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:12:58 ⋅ 2y No. 124622
>>124620 小粉红 means Chinese Nazi 维稳派 means Chinese monopoly capitalists and bureaucracy 保皇党 means restoring the Qing Empire or Ming Empire
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:15:23 ⋅ 2y No. 124623
>>119909 Yea you are right commarad. We actually need a powerful and rational, objective and fair party,China is too big whether it’s territory or population. Otherwise, China will hand over political power to these barbarians to brutalize the people.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:16:40 ⋅ 2y No. 124624
>>119899 One-party vanguard theory,先锋队理论, This was invented by your Russian Lenin :>
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:19:00 ⋅ 2y No. 124625
>>119899 Because of China’s Internet blocking and the fact that there are too many Chinese people, we do not need to communicate with the outside world and still can develop a network environment similar to the international network, splitting political opinions and quarreling each other.
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 23:19:56 ⋅ 2y No. 124626
Use exactly 1 space after a comma. Not 0, not 2. please i have autism
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:20:37 ⋅ 2y No. 124627
>>124626 okay,sry ;(
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:25:24 ⋅ 2y No. 124628
>>124625 And because of the government’s compulsory education, Chinese people generally have a higher level of education, and China’s online political struggle is more sinister and vicious than the internationl network.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:37:36 ⋅ 2y No. 124631
>>124626 wanna hear more about Chinese online political struggle?Such as Chinese Metoo?
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:40:02 ⋅ 2y No. 124632
>>124626 Chinese Metoo initiated a request a few months ago to ban Chinese men from taking elevators because they would make Metoo members nervous and about to be sexually assaulted in the elevator, so they would not allow men to take the elevator. Then CCP refuse their request.
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 23:41:57 ⋅ 2y No. 124633
>>124632 cucked is there a chinese incel movement online?
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:42:44 ⋅ 2y No. 124635
>>124633 Yup.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:43:24 ⋅ 2y No. 124636
>>124633 zhihu 知乎 is Chinese Quora.
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 23:44:47 ⋅ 2y No. 124637
>>124635 what is incel in chinese? also, what do you think about western china memes like this?
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:51:46 ⋅ 2y No. 124638
>>124637 Oh,Chinese incel? Chinese incel same as Japan incel. I think that meme is Stereotype. Because of Scientific outlook on development ,1979~2003 is a dark day of China,but anyway if you want to develop the economy quickly, you must control the pain of unbalanced development and make remedies later. This excessively rational approach is because CCP is still a Leninist party. In fact, I certainly don't fully support it, but I still support it on the whole. Of course, those mistakes should be criticized.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:55:18 ⋅ 2y No. 124640
>>124638 This meme same as,in China,western memes often shows Western people have difficulty observing discipline, and tend to be emotional, irrational, and have lower IQs. Racist,offensive and Stereotype. Most left member didn't think so.
China Bernd 2021-10-11 23:59:59 ⋅ 2y No. 124641
>>124637 Chinese incel use Chinese Youtube called bilibili,watch Vtuber live streaming,buy Otaku things,play videogames all day.
Germany Bernd 2021-10-12 00:03:35 ⋅ 2y No. 124642
>>124640 post some chimese memes about westoids please
China Bernd 2021-10-12 00:13:08 ⋅ 2y No. 124644
China Bernd 2021-10-12 00:16:36 ⋅ 2y No. 124645
Norway Bernd 2021-10-12 08:26:03 ⋅ 2y No. 124667
>>124628 That's interesting, in the west we just put the kids in a school and let them fight until they go home. No education needed.
Norway Bernd 2021-10-12 08:31:53 ⋅ 2y No. 124668
>>124644 lol
Slovenia Bernd 2021-10-12 08:52:19 ⋅ 2y No. 124669
>>124645 ancient roosian traditions such vibrant culture much soul
China Bernd 2021-10-12 09:27:39 ⋅ 2y No. 124671
>>119886 And Hongkong have a history problem called “一国两制”,“一国两制”was good at the beginning, because CCP were worried that Hong Kong people would not be able to accept overly radical communist reforms, and the people would not understand the overly radical reforms and resist (somewhat similar to the Soviet Union’s Тувинская Народная Pеспублика, the difference is Is that Hong Kong has always been Chinese territory and Тувинская Народная Pеспублика is not) After all, Hong Kong was once ruled by the British capitalist system. Overly radical reforms can be rude. CCP political terminology calls rude and radical reforms "one size fits all.","一刀切”。 Therefore, Hong Kong’s capitalist system has not been interfered by the CCP, which has led to an excessive gap between the rich and the poor in Hong Kong. On the contrary, in traditional Chinese territories, the gap between the rich and the poor has been controlled in accordance with the 科学发展观.
China Bernd 2021-10-12 09:28:52 ⋅ 2y No. 124672
>>124669 interesting
Slovenia Bernd 2021-10-12 09:40:11 ⋅ 2y No. 124673
China Bernd 2021-10-12 14:59:25 ⋅ 2y No. 124680
>>124671 There is a very absurd paradox: if the CCP wants to promote class justice in Hong Kong, it must interfere in Hong Kong politics.Western rightists will say that the CCP violates freedom. The CCP wants to maintain Hong Kong’s principle of freedom. Western leftists will say CCP revisionism. Promote class equity
China Bernd 2021-10-12 15:00:12 ⋅ 2y No. 124681
>>124673 cucked.
Russia Bernd 2021-10-12 16:25:44 ⋅ 2y No. 124685
>>124680 blaming each other in violating freedom is absurd by itself. any regulation restricts freedom by definition. so such accusations are pointless in their core. you can as well make a point about people in hong kong who want class justice, they are getting abused by those who doesnt want any changes and so on.
Finland Bernd 2021-10-12 19:29:07 ⋅ 2y No. 124693
>>124632 Tell me more about the Chinese Metoo and their shenanigans, didn't know such thing existed
China Bernd 2021-10-13 02:43:31 ⋅ 2y No. 124713
>>124693 A Chinese Metoo member cut a taxi driver’s neck with a knife for no reason because she suspected that the driver was a rapist. When the police arrested her, she cried loudly that the police were going to rape her,then took pictures send online and asked for help
China Bernd 2021-10-13 02:44:22 ⋅ 2y No. 124714
>>124693 But the law enforcement recorder showed that she was deliberately framed the police.
Norway Bernd 2021-11-01 13:41:09 ⋅ 2y No. 125972
"Patriotism is mandatory for every communist" - Mao
Canada Bernd 2021-11-01 15:18:24 ⋅ 2y No. 125979
>>125972 Muh Hundred Flowers Campaign
Moscow Bernd 2021-11-01 15:39:52 ⋅ 2y No. 125980
>>125972 >t. proceeds to kill millions of compatriots.
Germany Bernd 2021-11-01 15:52:02 ⋅ 2y No. 125982
>>125980 *class traitors
Norway Bernd 2021-11-02 14:12:14 ⋅ 2y No. 126028
Norway Bernd 2021-11-02 15:12:42 ⋅ 2y No. 126035
Tiny smol commies
Germany Bernd 2021-11-02 18:36:01 ⋅ 2y No. 126049
>>126028 does someone else feel like he is missing out a major experience of a mans life by never having been to the army?
Norway Bernd 2021-11-02 18:56:01 ⋅ 2y No. 126051
>>126049 I know that feel. We have conscription here but not that many go through it. I wish I had the basic military training. On the other hand I wasn't ready for it personally at 18, no way.
Slovenia Bernd 2021-11-02 18:59:24 ⋅ 2y No. 126052
>>126049 S'ame. I even thought of voluntarying it, but now I'm too old for it. I've wasted my youth studentfagging. Such cases. I also firmly believe that universal conscription is good for developing an opinion what average person is like. Too many nerds and poofs lack comprehension of how iq89s function due to not interacting with them really since elementary school. It's an eye opening experience when you realise they aren't just lazy and slow version of a fully sapient human, and that their brain actually is incapable of certain processes. They are as different from bernd as an animal.
Russia Bernd 2021-11-02 19:06:18 ⋅ 2y No. 126053
Chinese army showing some new muscles recently. It used to be neglected branch, especially infantry not in the areas close to sea. Indian conflict was a wake up call, now they get the infantry motorized mechanized supporter by artillery
Germany Bernd 2021-11-02 21:42:00 ⋅ 2y No. 126069
>>126051 >>126052 so the feel is known... glad to hear i'm not alone
Switzerland Bernd 2021-11-21 22:54:02 ⋅ 2y No. 127607
>>126069 Will suport the Chinese revolution for bitcoins since they are forbidden in china anyway let me use them for the revolution, they are inferior capitalist shit. Just send me yours. 1gE8CDbCgvEZ4drJMZYJBuEn9UceHpZsr
Mexico Bernd 2022-06-02 06:33:22 ⋅ 1y No. 156432
>>119878 Its 1 way. Ideally every country should tailor its own way of the future.
Mexico Bernd 2022-06-24 13:39:23 ⋅ 1y No. 183654
>>119878 No. 1. China is a very particular country and culture, can't be emulated. 2. China is more free-markets oriented than California now.
Poland Bernd 2022-06-24 13:54:19 ⋅ 1y No. 183661
>>119878 The way of the future apocalypse. Please chinks, keep drowning the world into your fucking madness and sucking your great Winnie's cock.
Russia Bernd 2022-06-24 15:47:44 ⋅ 1y No. 183682
>>183661 The rise of China is the demise of "the West", your apocalypse. You tied yourself to the American pigs and if American pigs drown, they drag you into the dirt.
Poland Bernd 2022-06-24 15:56:55 ⋅ 1y No. 183684
>>183682 Speak for yourself Ruscuck. To see Russians blowing chink dick is hilarious. That's if you are Russian at all.
Russia Bernd 2022-06-24 17:31:48 ⋅ 1y No. 183720
>>183684 i just love how China is winning and makes Westerners cope. Just sing yourself a lullaby of the inevitable collapse of China and everything will be fine, your white supremacy will ensure that you will win without even trying, you can defeat China even in your sleep without opening your eyes)
Russia Bernd 2022-06-26 06:51:58 ⋅ 1y No. 185042
Henry Kissinger will be 100 year old next year. Say something nice to him.
Switzerland Bernd 2022-07-13 17:20:32 ⋅ 1y No. 197725
>>183682 >>183720 Good posts. Agree 100% except for "white supremacy". Don't use Twitter lingo pls. Sage because I don't want to drown my thread.
United States Bernd 2022-08-21 12:16:24 ⋅ 1y No. 219335
>>185042 He was right.
United States Bernd 2022-08-27 15:09:59 ⋅ 1y No. 220563
>>220561 That CCP is burning propaganda money even on this dead beat chan is both impressive and pathetic at the same time. Get your CCP up your ass.
Slovenia Bernd 2022-08-27 15:40:15 ⋅ 1y No. 220581
>>220561 Exactly. Given that it is clear that China's shitholeness is a direct result of horrendous quality of its people, and that it is spilling over and destroying the entire world, the only way out is indeed a complete genocide of genetic scum called H*n. Everyone of quality has already fled to Taiwan 70 years ago, anyway.
Texas Bernd 2022-10-08 05:16:47 ⋅ 1y No. 230554
>>119878 Yes,
United States Bernd 2023-03-29 00:58:29 ⋅ 1y No. 263044
Actually the defenition of communism is: a political theory derived from Karl Marx, advocating class war and leading to a society in which all property is publicly owned and each person works and is paid according to their abilities and needs.
Mexico Bernd 2023-04-12 12:05:30 ⋅ 1y No. 265418
>>119878 Every specific case needs to be addressed in its own characteristics but there is a lot to be learned from the chinese experience.