Bernd
2022-02-26 20:42:45 ⋅ 3y
No. 138904
The fact that EU nations are now sending military equipment to Ukraine risks escalating the chance for Russia to use nukes to end the war.
If Russia gets stalled they will have no option.
Bernd
2022-02-26 20:44:43 ⋅ 3y
No. 138906
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:09:09 ⋅ 3y
No. 138915
>>138906
That's fucking dumb. Modern nukes are usually 20 to 50 times the yield of the first nuclear weapons you're describing and there are thousands fired in volleys as to not be intercepted, they can easily raze a city to the ground. And that's just the run of the mill variety, thet ones going for enemy capital cities would have a yield 2000 to 3000 times greater than those dropped on Japan
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:11:43 ⋅ 3y
No. 138916
>>138915
See the rest of that thread for all of your concerns.
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:35:28 ⋅ 3y
No. 138919
>>138916
Yeah still retarded, for starters the shockwave doesn't dissipate in inverse square law fashion, it rides the ground and goes farther depending on the terrain. Second you argue that the same damage could be done with napalm, well it could be done with axes, it's just not as fucking easy. Third, the link to the paper you provided is broken but I'm sure it didn't say dozens of missiles with dozens of warheads each, each nuke dozens of times more powerful than fat man in single city would do a damage comparable to what happened in Nagasaki
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:40:28 ⋅ 3y
No. 138920
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:46:46 ⋅ 3y
No. 138921
>>138920
Calling his arguments retarded, which they are, is not agressive. It's facts
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:49:04 ⋅ 3y
No. 138922
If Russia drops a nuke, it doesn't matter where they do it, America's dropping a nuke on Russia.
China and Russia will both drop nukes on America.
France or the UK might drop a nuke but they'll most likely pussy out.
Israel drops a nuke on Iran "preemptively" or some shit.
It ends with about 2.9 million fatalities within 24 hours
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:50:43 ⋅ 3y
No. 138923
>>138921
is aggressive because you can express the same thing about his arguments being invalid or nonsense without using slurs like a 13 years old.
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:51:14 ⋅ 3y
No. 138924
>>138922
as soon as russia drops a nuke we are all fucked, because that would just mean a ww3.
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:53:10 ⋅ 3y
No. 138925
>>138922
As soon as nukes are dropped, Poland is open, as we say. But there is no way to predict what will happen.
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:55:04 ⋅ 3y
No. 138927
>>138923
Well if you think that... Mind your own fucking business you groveling piece of shit. How's that for agressive?
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:59:33 ⋅ 3y
No. 138928
>>138919
>for starters the shockwave doesn't dissipate in inverse square law fashion, it rides the ground and goes farther depending on the terrain.
Inverse square law * some local geometrical correction is still inverse square law in first order.
>Second you argue that the same damage could be done with napalm, well it could be done with axes, it's just not as fucking easy.
See: my argument about Gutian invasion in the same comment.
>Third, the link to the paper you provided is broken
This one? https://www.science.org/doi/10.1126/sciadv.aay5478
Bernd
2022-02-26 21:59:56 ⋅ 3y
No. 138929
>>138927
oh hi chechen ball, I see you bought a proxy
Bernd
2022-02-26 22:13:20 ⋅ 3y
No. 138931
>>138928
It's not because it's a flattened sphere, the energy directed to the ground gets reflected upwards mostly, 1 and 9 are in the same order, it's still a lot of difference in the short distances that make a city.
Repeat your argument, because it seems to me you're saying ecosystems are so fragile even cavemen could break it in a global scale. Which they are, but that doesn't help your point
Not that one, the one you oosted, but simple math, that's talking about 350 nukes on the lower yield side, with an average death estimate of 75 million. That's the entire population of the first 15 or 17 biggest Indian cities.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_cities_in_India_by_population
Not such a great evidence for your argument
Bernd
2022-02-26 22:15:01 ⋅ 3y
No. 138932
>>138929
No pendejo, ve a postear tu hentai a otro lado y deja que yo me preocupe por como escribo. Nadie te hizo moderador
Bernd
2022-02-26 23:08:19 ⋅ 3y
No. 138935
Only now? Seems a bit late instead of sending men to delay the inevitable.
Bernd
2022-02-26 23:13:21 ⋅ 3y
No. 138936
>>138931
>It's not because it's a flattened sphere, the energy directed to the ground gets reflected upwards mostly
It's half a sphere. Just multiply everything by 2.
But you fail to understand what the importance of square law is here. It means that if you scale ALL distances up 2 times, you will need 4 times higher yield to accomplish the same result.
>Not that one, the one you oosted, but simple math, that's talking about 350 nukes on the lower yield side, with an average death estimate of 75 million. That's the entire population of the first 15 or 17 biggest Indian cities.
This one?
http://www.nasonline.org/about-nas/history/archives/collections/organized-collections/atomic-bomb-casualty-commission-series/abccrpt_pt3app9ch3.pdf
Let me stress once more:
>Outside a radius 1km from the ground center, there are almost no damage in a concrete building.
With 100x yield, the same observation will be true for everything 10km from ground zero.
Bernd
2022-02-26 23:35:51 ⋅ 3y
No. 138941
>>138936
It's not difficult to understand, it's incorrect. I said so, the cities are not very big, Few in the world are more than 15 km across.
By your own (extremely oversimplified and incorrect) rule a modern nuke with a pretty common yield (though not the most common) would raze most European cities, since they are less than 10km in radius. And said nuke it's usually fired in volleys of missiles with several nukes per missile.
I asked you explain your argument, posting links isn't an argument.
Bernd
2022-02-26 23:40:25 ⋅ 3y
No. 138944
>>138941
"almost no damage".
Not "everything inside that circle is turned into rubble immediately."
Bernd
2022-02-26 23:50:43 ⋅ 3y
No. 138947
>>138944
Almost no structural damage you mean, which a grenade wouldn't cause to a concrete wall either, but to sacks of meat and blood on the other hand... Which is what the shockwave is grenades exploding in all directions in that radius, even if you're behind a wall that suffers little damage
Bernd
2022-02-27 00:13:18 ⋅ 3y
No. 138952
>>138947
Did you even read the report from Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Or do you want to keep believing this bullshit?
On pages 5 and 6/8 you have reports about people who were inside buildings (but not shielded from radiation). At 0.4km, half were killed. At 0.8km, 30%. At 1km, 10%. At 2km, barely anyone (and only breaking glass was a real hazard).
Scale that up by 10x again if you want to see what happens if you drop a 2MT nuke on a city.
Bernd
2022-02-27 00:16:56 ⋅ 3y
No. 138953
>>138947
We can also do a little bit of recalculations with comparison to Hunga Tonga volcano explosion, which was over 50 megaton. Strong enough to circle Earth several times.
And yet, 65km away in the capital, nobody was even just injured by the blast itself.
Bernd
2022-02-27 00:35:02 ⋅ 3y
No. 138955
there are absolutely 0 chance to use nukes.
Bernd
2022-02-27 13:50:03 ⋅ 3y
No. 139027
>>138955
there are absolutely 0 chance to use nukes.
Bernd
2022-02-27 16:24:02 ⋅ 3y
No. 139078
>>139027
Oh well xD
Bernd
2022-02-27 16:38:00 ⋅ 3y
No. 139081
The world is going to end in a nuclear holocaust and I didn't get a gf before that.
Bernd
2022-02-27 16:38:28 ⋅ 3y
No. 139082
>>139081
Maybe its a good thing, you dont have to get dissapointed in the end.
Bernd
2022-02-27 20:44:08 ⋅ 3y
No. 139155
>>138932
you are embarassing yourself.