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Sloveniaextreme phonetic autismBernd2023-08-09 21:36:24 · 3yNo. 282394reply
So, for those of you unaware, I've been working on a quasi-phonetic alphabet for a very very long time. The goals are:
1) use the entire original alphabet
2) use the extensions in a way that aligns with as many systems as possible
3) use letter case (because I'm trying to stick true to how latin alphabet works, even though this feature is something I personally don't like much)
4) use additions that are as distinct as possible
5) make the system as regular as possible
The points 3) and 4) make it impossible to go the way of IPA and use a shitload of smallcaps symbols and various typographic variants signifying different phonemes. According to point 2) I decided then to go with a regular system of recognisable diacritics. I've maximally simplified the distinction by place of articulation (to labial, coronal, dorsal, laryngeal, + sibilant & lateral specials). I still had to introduce plenty of additional letters, the full inventory stands at 48.
 
I'm now almost satisfied with the end result, but there is one thing that bothers me: the letter Qq. I have two solutions how to complete the system;
1) use Qq for the guttural R ("dorsal vibrant"), and ʔ for the glottal stop (standard usage in phonetics), with a mirrored hamza-like (ء) uppercase – kind of like an open Q (but this leaves the 2-like variant cursive Q incompatible) – not encoded in Unicode, it's possible to mock it up using open O and ogonek: Ɔ̨. Fairly elegant, but seeing q's to denote the guttural Rs in French and German looks too counterintuitive.
2) use a rho-based ♇ϱ for the guttural R. Originally (10 years ago) I had rho for the voiceless R based on how it was devoiced in original Greek when word-initial or doubled, but that turned out too irregular compared to the rest of the system. I guess using 'rh' for the guttural R is kinda intuitive too. It'd also be possible to use lowercase ɽ instead of ϱ, but I'm not sure, the hooked descender looks a bit weird & I lose the rationalization that the letter is a rho that way. Then Qq is used for the glottal stop, which is how Maltese uses it, and also some odd languages here and there (Võro, Shanghainese romanization, and I believe some languages in the Pacific too)
 
Thoughts? I'm not sure which one looks nicer; the rho is a bit too distinct shape-wise (doesn't look in line with the rest of letters) and ʔ for glottal stop is a very standard phonetic letter, I feel like I shouldn't discard it like that. Q ends up being used in a weird way either way, though it looks less counterintuitive for me in the glottal stop position than in the guttural R.
 
Complimentary are three renditions of Der Nordwind und die Sonne, a text typically used in phonetic demonstrations, in German translation, to showcase how guttural R's show (I hope I didn't make too many mistakes typing this out):
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NetherlandsBernd2023-08-10 12:54:16 · 3yNo. 282448reply
> Come up with a standardized system for transcription of languages that don't use Latin
Why use Latin then? You could build something from a scratch instead, it would be more versatile and less confusing. It could also be less syllable-oriented, based on smaller and more distinctive sound features (like Korean script) - it's harder (slower) to write this way but easier to learn and read.
SloveniaBernd2023-08-10 13:41:37 · 3yNo. 282455reply
It needs to work inline with normal text, when writing in English or Slovene or otherwise, where only some words (e.g. proper names, culturally specific objects and concepts) need to be transcribed, but the rest is in normal language.
 
Autistic satisfaction.
 
Maybe I wasn't clear enough, I'm not really expecting this to replace any orthography. Being able to write German, French, Arabic, etc. is just a proof of concept.
GermanyBernd2023-08-10 14:20:16 · 3yNo. 282463reply
3rd one is quite easy to read, I like it.
SloveniaBernd2023-08-14 21:19:16 · 3yNo. 283204reply
There's another sound which I'm not 100% sure about what letter to go with.
 
I should note that I don't want to limit myself only to letter shapes which already exist and are encoded in Unicode, but I'm also using in all cases characters from already existing scripts as a base for addition to Latin. For example, the capital of ɽ / ϱ that I want to use doesn't exist in unicode (the canonical capital of ɽ is Ɽ, and of ϱ is just plain capital rho which is identical to P), so I'm using the Percival Lowell's monogram for Pluto, which already is encoded as ♇. Georgian asomtavruli Ⴒ (corresponding to nuskhuri ⴒ and mkhedruli ტ, with unrelated phonetic value /t'/) would also be acceptable as a placeholder... А proper uppercase should be designed by inverting the Cyrillic Б or the experimental early Zhuang tone letters Ƃ and Ƌ; or by overlaying P and L.
However, almost every letter I'm using already has an existing equivalent in an existing script. Sometimes it's quite hard to find a suitable parent script for characters representing rare sounds. The voiceless lateral spirant (I'm avoiding the modern IPA distinction between a fricative and an approximant here, because the two are often allophones & there's no clear distinction between the two), in IPA /ɬ~l̥/, therefore uses a letter from one of the few scripts that natively transcribe this sound: Ge'ez ሠ, which just so happens to be directly cognate to Cyrillic Ш (by the way of Hebrew ש), therefore I use Шɯ (with a more Latin style lowercase) for this sound. Even for the abstract positionless nasal semivowel I go to hiragana for inspiration and adapt ん for use in Latin (lowercase should look like ƕ though without the ascender) – though note also similarity in shape to the tilde ~ – while the most suitable uppercase equivalent is in my opinion an inverted N, so I use Cyrillic И as a placeholder when I have to type in Unicode. (I was however also considering something like Һ. Thoughts?)
 
Now, there are two sounds for which there is no suitable equivalent in any existing script.
The first one is the lateral vibrant ("lateral R" – think of Japanese pronunciation; sometimes it contrasts with R or L or both and thus needs own letter) – there are no suitable kana which could easily be modified into a Latin letter. Eventually I decided to go with a l-r monogram, which happens to be already encoded in Unicode as 𝼑. For uppercase, options are something like a Ⱶ (a Claudian letter), or again like Һ; possibly with a R-like slanted right leg. (Some shapes of how hiragana り can be written do look a bit similar, though.)
A much bigger problem is the labial vibrant. Perhaps I should note that I distinguish trills and taps by length, not as essentially different. This is a primary phoneme, but it is exotic enough that it is only natively present as a phoneme in various West African, Melanesian, upland Southeast Asian, and Amazonian languages. The only real option I'm aware of is the song by Knorkator where they joke about inventing a letter for this sound (and proceeding to replace /br/ in German words with it): YouTube: kh9oVpAmBAc and it looks a bit similar to Ω but closed, like an O overlaid with upside-down T. See attached image. It's weird, doesn't line up with the rest of letters, and I have no idea how to lowercase it. IPA uses ʙ for the bilabial trill (unsuitable as a smallcap) and ⱱ for the labiodental flap (which is an option, but I feel it's not distinctive enough from regular v, plus the hook is weird and works better in context of IPA than with other regular Latin letters.. Either way, medieval Cyrillic izhitsa which stands for y in Greek words is also very similar and could be a suitable placeholder: Ѵѵ). The only suitable option I can think of is to repurpose the phi Фф, which is ready-made, distinctive enough, but I have no justification to use it like that. Does anyone have better ideas?

United StatesBernd2023-08-08 05:37:12 · 3yNo. 282173reply
Walmart won't give you plastic or even paper bags anymore. you can only buy reusable ones at the register for 75 cents
 
this is LITERALLY communism. the founding fathers are rolling in their graves
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FranceBernd2023-08-12 22:46:55 · 3yNo. 282928reply
What's up my germaniggers guess who is going to a supermarket tomorrow on a sunday with unlimited free plastic bags.
TexasBernd2023-08-13 01:14:05 · 3yNo. 282932reply
USAzil is literally communist.
GermanyBernd2023-08-13 07:09:48 · 3yNo. 282946reply
supermarket on a sunday sounds nice, i'd much rather be able to buy food every day of the week. though selling to people is such horror, i get it that you want a day of rest from it.
 
i dunno why the sunday is off, people are sinners and demons anyways, they don't go to church afaik and also this is not supporting small businesses because those are mostly dead here.
 
they are having trouble finding enough employees, because they were such evil nazis that they fire the unvaccinated. i'd never work for covidnazis no matter how much they pay because unlike the bernds here, i am not a whore with a rotten soul, yes offense🧙‍♂️
FinlandBernd2023-08-14 19:48:44 · 3yNo. 283190reply
cant anyone stop dem?? that shit oughta be illegal

RussiaBernd2023-08-11 17:49:55 · 3yNo. 282652reply
Fuck, if only I was a firstworlder I'd instantly buy a ticket and go on an insane cocaine+hookers spree on the Russia. Then I would get a full cashback from the russian gubmint after posting a "WALK IN MOSCOW 2023 HD SEE RUSSIA IS NOT THIRD WORLD THEY HAVE A NICE STREET IN MOSCOW" kinda video on yt.
 
What's your fucking excuse euro/usgarchs
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RussiaBernd2023-08-13 13:02:00 · 3yNo. 282970reply
krokodil is not a drug, it is meaning of life
ArgentinaBernd2023-08-13 14:38:26 · 3yNo. 282980reply
>krokodil
Aint that make your skin fall off, as if you had leprosy?
RussiaBernd2023-08-13 15:17:42 · 3yNo. 282983reply
you dont really care about your physical mortal shell as you get closer to God
ArgentinaBernd2023-08-13 21:22:29 · 3yNo. 283032reply
Based and krokodilpiled

MexicoIQ TESTBernd2023-08-12 09:19:23 · 3yNo. 282807reply
you are a criminologist, you are in charge for an investigation about a murder crime.
 
The crime shows that a middle age man died while he was walking towards his car. He died for an explosion caused for a granate. Videos on the road shows that the granate was coming from above, some people in the scene of crime said that they heard noises from the sky like a motor and some suggested that the sound was comming from a drone.
 
the capabilitiesof a well-know drone are:
>Pic related
(evidence showed that the model of drone COULD be an
DJI Phantom 3 Standard)
 
What would you do to find out the murder?
 
 
>Also
Anons are allowed to make reviews of the aswers. Please make your analysis as real as possible.
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United StatesBernd2023-08-12 20:59:29 · 3yNo. 282916reply
Like always
MexicoBernd2023-08-12 23:22:11 · 3yNo. 282929reply
Then third column tells the range of the drone in a normal distance.
>you should investigate the university first cause is the only place you can get a drone without getting registred
I didn't know that
 
Some videos on the internet about shows how precise a drone dropping a granate could be (with low velocity of wind of course), that reminds me when both uckranians and russians didn't attack to each other with drones because of wind's speed.
> there would be a lot of street/car video recordings while almost no high rise buildings so a drone would be easy to trace by.
A dron could be like 50*50 cm so you are right about that i can imaginate it, the matter is how to find the people who car's recorded the video, maybe asking in a local infocomercial I don't know.
>such as digging up who the victim was and who would benefit from his death.
Correct
 
Is that possible such in a third-world country?
United StatesBernd2023-08-13 03:30:11 · 3yNo. 282936reply
crime seems unsolveable
your best choice would be searching recent drone purchases. but organized crime likely had the drone for a long time, transferred it for far away, stole it, or other such hard to trace
GermanyBernd2023-08-13 08:44:17 · 3yNo. 282952reply
>Is that possible such in a third-world country?
All you need to have is that is that the cell-phone towers log the signal strength of each cellphone that comes into their reach. When multiple do this you can triangulate the location of the cellphone.
Presumably your towers use the same chink hardware that does it as wectern towers. The software that does the rest should be easily available.
Surveillance of its citizens is something that every government from turd world to democracy to dictatorshit has an interest in. So yes. Most likely.
 
The only problem is when they can't match a phone number to a person. Do circumvent that germany forces germs to register with their passport when they buy a new sim-card. Even if it is prepaid. Don't know if mexico is as far is us in that regard.

GermanyIT venting threadBernd2023-08-11 17:02:18 · 3yNo. 282646reply
I had ans presentation yesterday in front of the managers. I proposed some changes to the software which would half loading times in some circumstances and some improvements to the user interface.
Everything went through and now I have extra work to do to implement it since I will have to do everything myself.
I already wrote a ticket about it eight months but my product manager has never read it. Every ticket must be approved by him before the team leader can prioritise it. Somehow the pm stopped working on non-trivial tickets completely about 1 year ago. There are even bug tickets that I wrote shortly before the release of the main version last year that are still open with him as the assignee.
I already talked to my team leader about it but he never does anything. Apparently now the only way to suggest changes that might actually have the chance to be realized is to do power point presentations in front of them.
 
During my presentation I talked about moving a button to some place else so it isn't as visible for the customer because it is usually not wise for the customer to click on it. One of the managers was first very opposed to the idea but after half an hour he wanted to remove the button completely. I talked to my team leader afterwards and me and him are pretty sure that this will result in problems in some use cases.
While I spend days thinking about changes and its possible side effect a manager can just decide something radical based on gut feeling in ans one hour meeting. This has a very neo feudalistic feel to me with some elite cast that does not have to work but gets to make all the decisions by the grace of god because he got into that position.
 
I really don't know what a manager is doing here tbh. There is no clear product strategy and I don't see what they are managing.
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United StatesBernd2023-08-12 19:04:47 · 3yNo. 282898reply
basically half the tech industry does 0 work while the other half does all the work themselves
so people hear about "oh you work in tech" and think you are the lazy half
GermanyBernd2023-08-12 19:26:01 · 3yNo. 282903reply
I know that one. Some foids believe that all software engineers are super rich because they know some freelancer that drives around in a sportscar.
 
 
I've been looking at job descriptions of other departments for a couple of weeks now.
Unfortunately they are very vague.
Eg. you will implement features in product X with C# and C++. This is literally the whole description. This makes me think that either the manager didn't bother to think about what he wants that person to do which would be ans red flag to me or they just want to target as many people as possible.
 
The main problem with switching would be that I don't really know how to identify a good work environment. In the worst case it will slowly turn out as bad or even worse than my current one but I will have the additional effort of familiarizing myself with a completely different codebase.
GermanyBernd2023-08-12 19:31:39 · 3yNo. 282904reply
United StatesBernd2023-08-13 04:58:51 · 3yNo. 282941reply
such is the turbulence of life and employment. You must observe and judge and navigate this. especially so in the dying tech industry
i would say just stick with your current position so as to remain employed, but positions and companies are disappearing, so if your judgement is that it's safer and better elsewhere, keep moving. just dont get unemployed for any amount of time

GermanyBernd2023-08-12 20:46:35 · 3yNo. 282912reply
There are people from around there world here talking to each other.
Today it may seem like not a big deal, but it's extraordnary. You should be greatful for being able to talk to people from other countries on other sides of the planet. It's not normal to be able to do this.
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NetherlandsBernd2023-08-12 22:01:59 · 3yNo. 282925reply
Progress is normal as it's humanity's path of survival. We had to start talking to people from other countries in order to survive.
FranceBernd2023-08-12 22:38:07 · 3yNo. 282926reply
Well well well, hello from France :)
United StatesBernd2023-08-13 00:47:38 · 3yNo. 282931reply
FUCK the Samoans!
United StatesBernd2023-08-13 04:20:30 · 3yNo. 282938reply
it is pretty great. so is information retreival
but people are pretty much the same everywhere i've found

United StatesBernd2023-08-06 00:09:44 · 3yNo. 281931reply
hello bernd!
please suggest improvements on my site. i am trying to create the greatest website of all time.
https://deek.chat/
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MexicoBernd2023-08-12 05:48:39 · 3yNo. 282765reply
You should allow CP
United StatesBernd2023-08-12 09:03:50 · 3yNo. 282801reply
Bazzinga
United StatesBernd2023-08-12 19:10:57 · 3yNo. 282900reply
go back
TurkeyBernd2023-08-12 21:49:18 · 3yNo. 282924reply
Turkish admins

FinlandBernd2023-08-12 11:52:46 · 3yNo. 282861reply
I mainly think about the combat patrol these days
TexasBernd2023-08-12 12:29:37 · 3yNo. 282862reply
FinlandBernd2023-08-12 13:09:30 · 3yNo. 282864reply
GermanyBernd2023-08-12 19:03:34 · 3yNo. 282897reply
how come you draw the pupils so small, makes the pictures seem like horror has been seen.

RussiaBernd2023-08-11 21:14:09 · 3yNo. 282700reply
I found an ancient ceramics in river. Something from few thousands years ago .
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PolandBernd2023-08-12 10:32:50 · 3yNo. 282819reply
what did you do with these?
RussiaBernd2023-08-12 13:40:40 · 3yNo. 282867reply
I put them into my anus
GermanyBernd2023-08-12 13:51:33 · 3yNo. 282868reply
your latest pictures looks way dirtier than the others. Is this before or after you've put them into your anus?
RussiaBernd2023-08-12 18:28:34 · 3yNo. 282891reply
That's the phone camera after my anus

GermanyBernd2023-08-11 18:51:58 · 3yNo. 282669reply
Visiting the town where I lived during lockdown, staying at a good friends (let's call him W) place.
 
Apparently my old friendgroup has a problem with me that I didn't even know about
 
They refuse to meet with me and don't tell me what this is about (ignored in whatsapp etc) and even W doesn't want to tell me because he promised them not to, afraid he might encounter problems.
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FinlandBernd2023-08-12 11:20:24 · 3yNo. 282858reply
that's every country
probably
NetherlandsBernd2023-08-12 11:27:03 · 3yNo. 282860reply
Not really. Here gas stations are closed at night as well (gas counters are automated), there's only two places open after midnight in the whole province and both are in Amsterdam.
In Japan they have a 24/7 convenience store in literally every village.
TexasBernd2023-08-12 12:37:07 · 3yNo. 282863reply
Before covid walmart and such was open 24/7. Now, even after covid everything closes at 11pm except gas stations where everything is overpriced.
GermanyBernd2023-08-12 15:31:17 · 3yNo. 282872reply
probably because it was too peaceful there at night. seems to me commerce agrees shopping is supposed to be bothersome for the customers.

GermanyBernd2023-08-12 02:47:32 · 3yNo. 282746reply
How long can you wipe your ass before it's gay?
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United StatesBernd2023-08-12 03:16:32 · 3yNo. 282753reply
you dont need to bully your fellow americans to halt the spread of bidets
they are cheap even, just $30, and easy to set up for the average american's plumbing expertise
let it flow
United StatesBernd2023-08-12 07:10:14 · 3yNo. 282769reply
anything after one swipe increases exponentially in gayness
PolandBernd2023-08-12 08:35:36 · 3yNo. 282793reply
depends if you're wiping your ass with another man's cock
TexasBernd2023-08-12 08:37:27 · 3yNo. 282794reply
Tauros is my stronkest.

TexasBernd2023-08-12 07:27:22 · 3yNo. 282777reply
I woke up with this song stuck in my head.
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TexasBernd2023-08-12 07:34:46 · 3yNo. 282781reply
United StatesBernd2023-08-12 07:37:41 · 3yNo. 282782reply
t. the Texan guy watching the circus in Madagascar 3
TexasBernd2023-08-12 07:50:19 · 3yNo. 282785reply
I never saw madagascar 3 but it must be true
 
TexasBernd2023-08-12 07:59:23 · 3yNo. 282786reply
Watch this KC tier animay
 

TexasBernd2023-08-12 03:07:45 · 3yNo. 282749reply
Meet the cats fighting Chicago's rat problem
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TexasBernd2023-08-12 07:23:27 · 3yNo. 282773reply
IDK looked like a nice town.
GermanyBernd2023-08-12 07:24:07 · 3yNo. 282775reply
>Chicago's rat problem
not my problem
RussiaBernd2023-08-12 07:46:06 · 3yNo. 282783reply
Its because whoever makes video can cherrypick some nice rich neighbourhood and show it.
But you also can show this. Look at this video
I can't imagine walking in this area, my lanklet white skeleton would stick out like a sore thumb attracting stares as if i'm somewhere in Mozambique. But unlike Mozambique, those dumb niggers go to gym, steroidal and possibly armed.
TexasBernd2023-08-12 07:48:47 · 3yNo. 282784reply

FinlandBernd2023-08-12 05:02:38 · 3yNo. 282763reply
Bratislava drugs? are ub gayts
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