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FinlandСтаканы битьBernd2022-01-25 23:59:11 · 4yNo. 133325reply
When I was a child I read a lot of old Donald Duck comics. I remember in some of them that took place in old Tsaric Russia, the tradition of breaking glasses was predicted there heavily (Стаканы бить ?). The Russian characters really liked throwing their glasses and shattering them.
 
How common was that tradition, during what period did it become popular, was it commong among commoners or only the aristocrats?
I'm having trouble finding a good article about this subject since I am not really sure what I am supposed to google about, not even the correct term. Further information is required.
 
>According to the legend, people present during this episode misinterpreted the Tsar's words and thought that Peter called to break the glasses (Russian: Стаканы бить! - literally beat glasses or break glasses), that's how a tradition of breaking drinkware on certain occasions appeared in Russia. Glasses were broken after especially important toasts or just during the especially cheerful parties. Russian restaurants even held a special prices for breaking the glasses. Breaking of drinkware, or, in wider context, any tableware, is believed in Russia to bring luck and happiness.
 
My lack of knowledge of this subject greatly annoys me, even if might be trivial for some.
SloveniaBernd2022-01-26 00:17:23 · 4yNo. 133326reply
Can't say about Russia but it was common on Balkans until recently (my parents' times) to the point bars had to put up signs saying that you will pay 10x the price for drink if you deliberately break the glass. Same context as described.
FinlandBernd2022-01-26 00:20:11 · 4yNo. 133328reply
Interesting, so it was common over there among commoners. Do you know if it was inside USSR?
Also, was there a specific reason for the swift in tradition, or did people just stop slowly until it eventually wasn't that common?
GermanyBernd2022-01-26 00:21:59 · 4yNo. 133329reply
>Can't say about Russia
<Do you know if it was inside USSR?
GermanyBernd2022-01-26 00:22:32 · 4yNo. 133330reply
 
This German song about Moscow and Russia in general refers to throwing glasses against the wall.
SloveniaBernd2022-01-26 00:24:11 · 4yNo. 133331reply
I'm kind of assuming it was a Serb thing to do. Serbs probably still do it. Since Yugoslavia became cringe, such foreign traditions are now out.
GermanyBernd2022-01-26 00:24:24 · 4yNo. 133332reply
Fun fact: In the background you see a certain man who you can also see in the background of this display of musical and political brilliance:
 
GermanyBernd2022-01-26 00:25:02 · 4yNo. 133333reply
Serbs seem like a savage people tbh. Very backwards in many ways (which is not always bad).
SloveniaBernd2022-01-26 00:25:55 · 4yNo. 133334reply
Serbs are the niggers of Europe.
FinlandBernd2022-01-26 00:28:42 · 4yNo. 133336reply
I always like this song. Sometimes when I'm drunk at my friends place I play it. Very cool dancing guy.
 
Shame, but I don't think you guys were the only ones where many traditions died out, be they foreign or cringe. National dresses/outfit/dancing used to be very commong and culturally rich in Europe until of late. My father did tradition dancing too but for some reason decided not to teach any of his 4 kids it.
 
I know very little of Serbs. What have they done to earn this bad reputation? The more I think of it, I think most times I have heard something about Serbs mentioned, it has been in a negative tone, so maybe there is something to it..?
SloveniaBernd2022-01-26 01:06:46 · 4yNo. 133339reply
To understand Serbs, you need to first know how they came to be.
 
 
Original Serbs were a Slavic tribe that settled in the Balkans during early middle ages. Their original territory covered roughly what is now eastern Herzegovina (east of Neretva river) and Montenegro. In 13th century, Serbs became the most powerful tribe in the region, under Nemanjić clan, descendants of Stefan Nemanja. At their peak, their territory spread south into Greece all the way to the Gulf of Corinth, included Sofia and Struma valleys that are now in Bulgaria, and had Bosnia as its vassal. Religiously, Serbs were firmly under Byzantine sphere of influence (unlike Bosnia) and Serbian Church was autocephalous since 1219, raised to a patriarchate in 1346.
 
What happened next is a disastrous defeat to Ottomans at Battle of Kosovo in 1389, which became the foundational myth of modern Serbia. Modern Serbs believe that because Serbia was too strong, Vatican and Ottomans joined in a conspiracy that to this very day is aimed at oppressing Serbs whenever possible. For example, Bill Clinton and The Hague War Tribunal are also part of this conspiracy.
 
What happened to Serbs after 1389? First, a century-long decay of Serbian state into oblivion. But Serbian Church retained its status, even under Ottomans, across the wide territory of medieval Serbia at its peak, and by the 19th century church membership became synonymous with Serbdom. Since not all ethnic groups had their own church, this also included now-Slavicised-previously-Romanised Illyrians ("Vlachs"), those Gypsies who became Christian, and even some ethnic Albanians (for example, Karađorđe Petrović, who became the leader of "First Serb Uprising" in 1804, his paternal grandfather was Đin Maraš Klimenta - Klimenti were an Albanian tribe, called Kelmendi in Albanian).
 
Meanwhile, in the original heartland of the Serbs, a resilient resistance against Ottoman rule was organised, now without a clear king, in 1516 in Cetinje. To avoid clan disputes, they agreed to name instead the Metropolitan of Zeta, now stationed in Cetinje, as their leaderhead. Ottomans found those remote mountain clans too much of a hassle to subdue and thus, de facto independent state of Montenegro was formed, which much later earned formal recognition.
 
 
tl;dr: Serbs are a "my ancestor))))))" hodgepodge of assorted trash mythologising a medieval identity that has barely anything to do with them. The only real Serbs are Montenegrins.
UkraineBernd2022-01-26 01:18:12 · 4yNo. 133341reply
мій сотруднік розбив склянку на роботі і каже це к щастью, а начальник відповів это к залупє
UkraineBernd2022-01-26 01:22:14 · 4yNo. 133342reply
my employee accidentally broke a glass at work and said it is to happiness, and the boss replied it is to dickhead
SloveniaBernd2022-01-26 01:44:11 · 4yNo. 133343reply
>сотруднік
"colleague" is the word you're looking for.
RussiaBernd2022-01-26 01:57:06 · 4yNo. 133345reply
 
Never heard of it, never saw anyone doing it, never read about it in any classic Russian literature of XVIII - XIX centuries. Infa 87% that it is just another one of these Western stereotypes about Russia that doesn't anything to do with actual Russia. Like that Russians say "na zdorovie" (usually rendered as "nazdrovie" in Holliwood movies) as a drinking toast. No, Russians don't say that.
 
However, to be just, there is a similar tradition, where someone would break a porcelain plate in the beginning of some important endeavor. You can see it here, for example:
 
 
In general, since medieval times to break a plate accidentally was considered a good luck sign - especially for an unmarried woman (it signified a happy marriage soon).
SloveniaBernd2022-01-26 02:10:36 · 4yNo. 133347reply
>Like that Russians say "na zdorovie" (usually rendered as "nazdrovie" in Holliwood movies) as a drinking toast. No, Russians don't say that.
We say that in Slovenia though ("na zdravje")
RussiaBernd2022-01-26 02:22:02 · 4yNo. 133348reply
 
Yes, for some reason Westerners ten to confuse Russia and Balkans a lot - most of Hollywood "Russians" are played by Bosniaks, Chroats and the likes.
UkraineBernd2022-01-26 03:54:32 · 4yNo. 133352reply
yeah i used googletranslate
recently i am not so much involved in english as previously
as in times of chan.si yuchan.org
HungaryBernd2022-01-26 07:48:44 · 4yNo. 133362reply
Most Hollywood Russians (and Germans and Serbs and Hungarians...) are played by one Swedish bloke:
GermanyBernd2022-01-26 08:46:11 · 4yNo. 133364reply
I’m not impressed and impressed at the same time.
SloveniaBernd2022-01-26 17:48:30 · 4yNo. 133446reply
MoscowBernd2022-01-27 13:30:37 · 4yNo. 133509reply
i don't think it was a tradition.
 
it could have been an euphemism for drinking liquior
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