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Next African war?

Bernd 2023-07-31 11:30:48 ⋅ 4mn No. 281189

There was a coup in Niger ECOWAS threatens to invade in a week if the coup leaders don't release captured president Bazoum

Bernd 2023-07-31 11:33:04 ⋅ 4mn No. 281190

before that there were also coups in Guinea, Mali and Burkina-Faso with dictators coming to power seems like millitary in African countries got emboldened and took a hint that they can just take power from any elected leader but Niger was the last straw for Ecowas and their French donors, they decided to draw the line here

Bernd 2023-07-31 11:35:59 ⋅ 4mn No. 281191

reality check: french simply said "okay, no more aids for niger" https://www.france24.com/en/africa/20230729-france-cuts-off-aid-to-niger-amid-growing-western-condemnation-of-coup everyone who claims france is plundering africa got extremely butthurt about those news :^)

Bernd 2023-07-31 11:38:48 ⋅ 4mn No. 281192

Will ECOWAS intervention succeed? It could be successfull, because capital of Niger is located very close to the border of Nigeria and Benin (both ECOWAS countries) So ECOWAS forces can march on capital fast, and cut it off from the rest of the country which is desert anyway. Nigeria has big army, lots of men to invade Niger. Could be main player. Plus - country of Chad is also de-facto the French puppet and can join ECOWAS forces in invasion of Niger. France can support with speacial forces, they have 2 bases in Niger. Also there is American base in Niger, so they can use their drones for recoinasance.

Bernd 2023-07-31 11:43:17 ⋅ 4mn No. 281197

If ECOWAS succesfully millitarily invades Niger and restores Bazoum's presidency, then ECOWAS will showcase itself to be a very powerfull player in the region and whoever will showcase better results. If they win, they could be emboldened to later invade Burkina Faso and possibly Guinea or even Mali.

Bernd 2023-07-31 11:47:42 ⋅ 4mn No. 281198

if ECOWAS invades and then fails to win quickly and gets boggled down, without commiting a lot of resources, then the entire region be destabilized. Leadership of ECOWAS countries themselves is not very stable and prone to violent coups and protests, so if they get into war and can't win and can't get out, then they themselves can face serious problems at home Any war in the region will force enormous ammounts of refugees out of the area. Without central power in Niger (the constitution is suspended now!) the jihadis could start gaining more influence. And to counter that influence, Western countries would have to invest more into West-African security and pay much tighter attention to this region.

Bernd 2023-07-31 11:50:39 ⋅ 4mn No. 281199

>m-muh French puppets you seem to be [i]projecting[/i]

Bernd 2023-07-31 11:56:51 ⋅ 4mn No. 281202

>>281199 Go educate yourself on who is Mahamat Déby, the current dictator of Chad and how he got into power. He wasn't elected, he usurped the power after the death of his father and proclaimed himself leader without any elections and it was fine for France, they even supported him after he cracked down on pro-democratic protestors. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scncuF0A8aQ

Bernd 2023-07-31 12:03:52 ⋅ 4mn No. 281204

>>281202 >He wasn't elected, he usurped the power after the death of his father You mean, exactly like how all the post-Soviet dictators in Central Asia work? >and it was fine for France Yes, it's called pragmatism strong dictatorships are consistently more stable in Africa

Bernd 2023-07-31 12:11:59 ⋅ 4mn No. 281206

>>281204 Who the fuck cares about Central Asia, i am not defending it here, retard >strong dictatorships are consistently more stable in Africa And if they are not strong, then they are not stable. Circular logic, idiot. Go and discuss your gay escapades in other threads, you seem to be more knowledgable about those than geopolitics.

Bernd 2023-07-31 12:20:28 ⋅ 4mn No. 281208

Mahamat Déby right now is in Niger, negotiating. He also met president Bazoum, confirming that he is alive and well( he is even smiling on photo). Possibly Deby could negotiate some peaceful solution that would return Bazoum to power and resolve the situation. if i was leading Niger i wouldn't allow Deby to leave in a week, turning him into a hostage himself))

Bernd 2023-07-31 12:24:15 ⋅ 4mn No. 281209

Oh no ;_; I hope there will be a peaceful outcome.

Bernd 2023-07-31 12:44:24 ⋅ 4mn No. 281216

>>281209 ECOWAS can just...fuck off and not invade. Why dictatorship in Chad is somehow good, but dictatorship in Niger is unacceptable?

Bernd 2023-07-31 13:03:46 ⋅ 4mn No. 281221

>>281191 France is not abusing Africa using that special currency they made? I thought France makes huge profits. >>281216 what transition?

Bernd 2023-07-31 13:14:18 ⋅ 4mn No. 281222

>>281221 >what transition? Its how dictators call their dictatorship, pretending its just a temporary period of their rule before some changes will happen, before the elections in unspecified date in the future. But usually this "temporary" period becomes permanent period and no election happen, transitional government just writes new laws that cement its power, clear the political field from opposition and takes actions that allow to legitimize its own rule in the future.

Bernd 2023-07-31 13:38:58 ⋅ 4mn No. 281225

>>281222 smart i wish i could do that in germany, or maybe just in austria or belgium or so having your own tiny kingdom sounds nice

Bernd 2023-07-31 13:56:31 ⋅ 4mn No. 281227

Its almost like West African war in TNO https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Aimr8KUYgGs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrNhAc1qIhs

Bernd 2023-07-31 14:01:52 ⋅ 4mn No. 281228

Shit in the region can be unpredictable, those borders are very fragile and ECOWAS leaders are not really that popular in their own countries. After i finish my work, i could do a little review on all current presidients of ECOWAS countries. Most of them are fucking crooks, who stay in power through corruption, intimidation and imprisonment of opposition. So if those faggots dare to invade, won't win quickly and cause casualties in their own armies - their little houses of cards could start trembling and falling.

Bernd 2023-07-31 14:37:40 ⋅ 4mn No. 281230

It wouldn't be the first millitary intervention by ECOWAS. They intervened in Gambia in 2017, following presidential crisis. They troops still remain in the country of Gambia. but intervention into relatively small Gambia is one thing. Intervention into colossal Niger is another business entirely. Some might wonder if they have the power for it. ECOWAS also not very popular in the region and seen by many Africans as a proxy for the former colonizer France. So that intervention could turn many people against ECOWAS. And what if Mali and Burkina-Faso send volunteers? or if Niger army would use their territory for raids into ECOWAS countries? This could escalate.

Bernd 2023-07-31 14:46:44 ⋅ 4mn No. 281231

>>281228 >Most of them are fucking crooks, who stay in power through corruption, intimidation and imprisonment of opposition Isn't that every country on the continent though?

Bernd 2023-07-31 16:03:27 ⋅ 4mn No. 281238

>>281231 in some of African countries election do happen and often Like Liberia for example. Right now they have a president who was previously famous football player and before him was a woman president. I cannot criticize their game.

Bernd 2023-07-31 16:42:49 ⋅ 4mn No. 281242

Nigeria (ECOWAS) has a lot of Chinese tanks from NORINCO that they bought recently. If Nigeria invades Niger, then it might be their first use against the army of the enemy. And if there are Wagner troops in Niger, then we might see Russians fighting against Chinese tanks for the first time.

Bernd 2023-07-31 17:06:56 ⋅ 4mn No. 281250

French and American troops are still inside Niger. France operates drones from Niamey airbase and its troops were deployed on the border with Mali. Video below is just 3 month old https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=06cQ6LntRnM

Bernd 2023-07-31 17:32:32 ⋅ 4mn No. 281252

Army of Niger claims that -- politicians of Niger who are not loyal to army junta convened a meeting with representatives of France in the building of National guard of Niger and given France authorization to carry out strikes against Nigerian army in order to free Bazoum who is in the presidential palace. France doesn't recognize junta and considers Bazoum legitimate leader of Niger, so Bazoum could through politicians give France authorization to do pretty much anything. It also seems that the place of meeting - building of National guard - indicates that National guard of Niger might have retained loyalty to president, unlike army, but so far its just speculation. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDXOqkcykf0

Bernd 2023-07-31 17:48:07 ⋅ 4mn No. 281253

>>281221 >France is not abusing Africa using that special currency they made? African countries are free to leave :^) So far every single one that left learned the hard way that they can't manage finance. >>281216 >Why dictatorship in Chad is somehow good, but dictatorship in Niger is unacceptable? Chad is not part of ECOWAS, so that's not their fuck to give? >>281230 >It wouldn't be the first millitary intervention by ECOWAS. They intervened in Gambia in 2017, following presidential crisis. They troops still remain in the country of Gambia. >but intervention into relatively small Gambia is one thing. Intervention into colossal Niger is another business entirely. ECOWAS is also in intervention in Mali since 2013. So.

Bernd 2023-07-31 17:50:21 ⋅ 4mn No. 281255

Al Jazeera reports that Coup leaders have have arrested the minister of interior and other minister. Why its important? Because the national guard of Niger follows commands of the minister of interior https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7AvZJMoHkY

Bernd 2023-07-31 17:52:07 ⋅ 4mn No. 281256

>>281231 >on the continent Oh you sweet summer child...

Bernd 2023-07-31 18:01:11 ⋅ 4mn No. 281259

>>281253 >Chad is not part of ECOWAS, so that's not their fuck to give? I mean more for a France in that sense. They unconditionally support Deby junior because they don't have much choice even though he has zero legitimacy. Chad is the republic, not a monarchy so just being the son of the previous leader doesn't give you the right to become the president.

Bernd 2023-07-31 18:09:07 ⋅ 4mn No. 281261

but if you read wikipedia then you can find strange stories. Old Idriss Déby(previous leader of Chad) had another son named Brahim Déby. He died in France in veeeeery strange situation. Night life in France is wild as they say, am i right?

Bernd 2023-07-31 18:14:19 ⋅ 4mn No. 281262

>>281259 Well, as a monarchist, I will support his claim.

Bernd 2023-07-31 18:31:12 ⋅ 4mn No. 281267

>>281262 but thats the thing, litl Deby is not a monarch, he doesn't have the balls to go full Bokassa, he can't do that. Instead its just boring regular junta, lame generals with shitty uniforms. The constitution of Chad is suspended from 2021 and country is rulled with some fig leaf charter, with some tranny transition councel of millitary in charge of everything. No glory, no style

Bernd 2023-07-31 21:23:22 ⋅ 4mn No. 281309

Conspiracy theories time! I was watching several reports about Niger and everywhere i go i see Russian flags. And i started to ask myself a simple question - where did they get them? i mean flags, where did those protesters get the flags of Russian federation? Russia doesn't even have an embassy in Niamey, as embarassing as it sounds. My conspiracy theory is that those flags are handed up by Western agents, they pay protestors like 1$ to wave it and then film it, to present "a picture" for the World media of Russian involvment and meddling, because they want to influence western politicians more, knowing that Russian flag motivates them to beyond measure to out-invest the cause, trying to overcome Russian investment.

Bernd 2023-08-01 09:03:35 ⋅ 4mn No. 281344

I don't think ECOWAS will invade. Their contingents they can put together are kinda useless. There was strong language used between France and Mali and Mali is being in the state of coup for years now (the ruling colonel couped several governments since the first coup), and in France has thousands of soldiers in Mali (I think liek 7000 or so). Plus the ECOWAS, plus the MINUSMA. Mali also has Wagner, doing Wagner business. They could give Russian flags to Nigers. I think Niger will do just fine. Things might look heated in the media at the moment.

Bernd 2023-08-01 09:04:27 ⋅ 4mn No. 281345

Although I haven't checked the situation in Mali half year now, so things could be different.

Bernd 2023-08-01 11:43:37 ⋅ 4mn No. 281360

i rarely praise Wion, but when India has no intrest in the region, it seems like they not picked a side and actually invited independent expert now to voice his opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5KC8R-870g Of course if India would have skin in the game, they would have a propaganda textbook and would only invite people who would say what they "have to say".

Bernd 2023-08-01 12:50:56 ⋅ 4mn No. 281366

Burkina Faso and Mali voiced that they would defend independence of Niger in case of invasion. They also ruled by juntas, so they understand that if Niger falls, they would either be forced to absorb refugees or be next on the chopping block. So there appears to be like a power block of three countries BurkinaFaso-Niger-Mali with mutual defence capability? That was very fast ! But its not out of blue, we have to understand that ECOWAS issuing ultimatum of 7 days OR INVASION! - this was very radical threat, this was out of the blue unexpected, and unexpected radicalism is met with unexpected radicalism. This may significantly cool the hot heads in ECOWAS because now they not only looking at border with Niger, but also at much larger border with Mali and BF. Some junior ECOWAS countries who before would be cheerleading invasion, because they thought that it wouldn't affect them because they don't have border with Niger, now might get cold shower on their head realizing that their support for invasion of Niger wouldn't go without consequences for them. The whole conflict could become very big, and potentially drag more countries in. Does ECOWAS really want it? And if not, what if they back down now? Wouldn't they appear too weak and face consequences from this new Western-African junta aliance they rushed into existance with their hastly declared ultimatums?

Bernd 2023-08-01 14:32:21 ⋅ 4mn No. 281386

i listen to some African podcasts and blogs and people in Africa are wild. I mean - i am conspiracy theorist, but some of those guys in Africa claiming impossible things - like they claim that this coup in Niger is orchestrated by South Africa as a fasle flag to blame Nigerian president for it, because he won election illegitematelly. Africans are like children, they are walking into a big BIG war, akin to WW1 and they are completelly clueless, like fucking children, instead talking about conspiracy theories. Most of those countries are poor shitholes and they don't even control some of their own territory due to islamic terrorist anclaves, and they want to enter a war with Niger in this state. Why? It looks like France is playing its african puppet states to return its another puppet state in the crown. But France doesn't want to put troops on the ground or get hands dirty, so they are using dumb ECOWAS block to do the dirty deadly work. What is going to happen if ECOWAS wins - France will get the spoils.

Bernd 2023-08-01 14:47:49 ⋅ 4mn No. 281390

Some Africans really dream of becoming meaningfull powers on the world-board and see invasion into Niger as a chance to prove their worth, mettle. Some people in Nigeria want to be like Kenya which is sending troops to Haiti, projecting power overseas. Isn't that a scary thought - African nations sending troops to Americas to quell unrest? But it reminds me of the time when Ethiopians were fighting along UN troops in Korea. And imagine if one day Nigeria would become superpower and start projecting its power overseas - imagine if there is some war in Europe or Asia and Nigeria sends 1 million black army to support one side. That is a very very scary thought, but this is what some Africans are dreaming about.

Bernd 2023-08-01 15:40:41 ⋅ 4mn No. 281395

reports that Sierra Leone arresting millitary officrers trying to prevent a coup ECOWAS is shaking in its boots

Bernd 2023-08-01 15:43:59 ⋅ 4mn No. 281396

>>281366 Hmm. East, north-east Mali is still ISIL, Al Qaeda. Perhaps they'll also join the fray for their own interest. >>281386 >Africans are like children And they are very clueless, rarely see beyond the "politics" of their own settlement, and their view on national and international happening and them alignment is basically a local business (for example the chief aligns with one side and the witchdoctor with the other they think the war is about them). >they don't even control some of their own territory due to islamic terrorist anclaves, Well, the islamic terrorists are themselves too. Also noteworthy. There is very few people in politics and they are all interconnected in one way or another simply because the social strata that has the capacity and opportunity to get in, is very slim.

Bernd 2023-08-01 15:48:01 ⋅ 4mn No. 281397

>so whats today on the West African agenda? >oh, you know...the usual ))))

Bernd 2023-08-01 17:00:58 ⋅ 4mn No. 281411

>>281396 There are few places where political elites of Western Africa intersect and meet, during African union meetings and in capital of Nigeria, and all do pilgramage to France. Some of them go to UAE and spend a lot of time abroad, instead of solving issues at home, because once you get the money being the president of African state, and once you seen how foreigners live, how luxury surrounds them, you would never NEVER NEEEVEEEER would want to return and spend much time in the poor regions of Africa solving their problems.

Bernd 2023-08-01 17:29:43 ⋅ 4mn No. 281421

Also, on the border with Nigeria there is another time bomb - its called Cameroon. Why is it the time bomb? Because of its president Paul Biya, who is 90 years old. Thats right, this motherfucker is 90 years old and he has been president of Cameroon for 39 years. Because no one cares about Africa such troublesome things can exist in the shadow of obscurity, ignorance and indifference. I only hope my country wouldn't be like Cameroon, iykwim. And the country itself has separatists who ...want to speak English. So they want to secede and speak English. not some local native language...nope, they just want to secede from Cameroon and don't want to speak French. Its such a mess, like a powder keg of enormous proportions. Hei, did i mention that it shares border with Central African republic which is also unstable and there are possible spillover effects? Now i did.

Bernd 2023-08-01 18:03:31 ⋅ 4mn No. 281432

>>281208 Some might wonder - why lil Deby of Chad is in Niger? Well, its simple. If Niger were to become unstable, then Chad would be almost completelly surrounded by fire. Libya on the North is unstable, warlords abound. Sudan is still in shit because army fights quick reaction force. Central African republic has Wagner forces. Cameroon is ruled by 90 year old dictator who might croak every day. And now Niger going to go bust? Deby probably realized that he needs to try to save the situation somehow.

Bernd 2023-08-01 18:34:49 ⋅ 4mn No. 281443

Started listening to Bolaji Akinyemi on youtube - he is ex-foreign affrairs of Nigeria. Very insightfull into the vision from African side https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rH0IDqQ7K_U

Bernd 2023-08-02 13:13:10 ⋅ 4mn No. 281572

MAP PORN

Bernd 2023-08-02 15:08:48 ⋅ 4mn No. 281584

Meanwhile in the real world: >Breaking: Rolling blackouts hit cities in Niger following Nigeria's decision to cut electricity supplies to the country following coup - BBC

Bernd 2023-08-02 18:58:41 ⋅ 4mn No. 281607

>>281584 Electricity is over-rated when you live in Niger and don't have any appliances. and anyway, rich people probably have something solar

Bernd 2023-08-02 20:12:13 ⋅ 4mn No. 281623

OP, please help, how do I explain this literal rubinstein that Chad is a French puppet regime?

Bernd 2023-08-03 05:42:58 ⋅ 4mn No. 281656

>>281623 for outflow of refugees

Bernd 2023-08-03 07:35:25 ⋅ 4mn No. 281661

Can someone berndpill me on this? What is going on and why should I care?

Bernd 2023-08-03 07:44:38 ⋅ 4mn No. 281664

>>281661 niger from niger removed half-niger,half-arab president from power and now niggers about to start fighting. You should care because if they do war, then there will be refugees flow increase, also uranium could become expensive

Bernd 2023-08-03 08:25:17 ⋅ 4mn No. 281670

>>281664 I have no worries about uranium, since Germany was smart and got rid of nuclear reactors.

Bernd 2023-08-03 13:02:39 ⋅ 4mn No. 281680

LOL NIGER

Bernd 2023-08-03 14:55:53 ⋅ 4mn No. 281684

I used to think that it was mere coincidence that the names of Niger and Nigeria resembled the Spanish word for the color black (negro), and that they were actually named after the Niger river. Didn't give too much thought as to why the river was also called Niger until doing a bit of quick research many years ago and finding out that it was probably named by Europeans who used the Latin word for the color black (niger). It's also no coincidence that there's only a one letter difference between nigger and niger. Now post more map porn.

Bernd 2023-08-03 15:01:45 ⋅ 4mn No. 281687

>>281684 egerew n-igerewen is tuareg for "the river of rivers"

Bernd 2023-08-03 15:06:07 ⋅ 4mn No. 281688

>>281687 Yeah I just looked that up DAMN But nigger really did derive from the Latin word for the color black, though. I think.

Bernd 2023-08-03 18:26:31 ⋅ 4mn No. 281701

>>281688 yes, I would assume via french? (nègre) also the name niger for the river (in this particular shortening) probably stuck only because it also means black in latin, so...

Bernd 2023-08-03 20:02:51 ⋅ 4mn No. 281718

>>281607 Is that Niger without electricity? Had to heat the outdoors to keep snow away?

Bernd 2023-08-03 20:17:48 ⋅ 4mn No. 281722

>>281718 Yes. Hot Africa is a big conspiracy, in fact they just heat it up with electric heaters. That's what caused global warming btw.

Bernd 2023-08-04 03:41:12 ⋅ 4mn No. 281736

Niger y nigger.

Bernd 2023-08-05 18:28:39 ⋅ 4mn No. 281903

On Sunday ECOWAS ultimatum date expires Current leader of ECOWAS is president of Nigeria - Bola Tinubu. Tinubu already asked senate of Nigeria for authorisation to deploy forces abroad. But whats funny is that other countries of ECOWAS didn't bother with such formalities yet. So Nigeria is at top of it.

Bernd 2023-08-05 20:29:20 ⋅ 4mn No. 281917

>>281903 Nigeria vs Níger Who’s the ultimate nigger?

Bernd 2023-08-05 20:32:59 ⋅ 4mn No. 281918

Nigerian senate voted against intervention. Déby is working on mediation. And a commentary / op-ed from Nigerian media. https://www.premiumtimesng.com/opinion/614463-before-marching-to-niamey-let-us-pause-by-owei-lakemfa.html

Bernd 2023-08-06 07:10:54 ⋅ 4mn No. 281950

>>281918 >its military is bogged down by secessionist violence in the [...], terrorists in the [...], armed militia storming through the [...] and bandits rampaging throughout the country This basically describes all the African countries. None of 'em has much power to intervene in other countries.

Bernd 2023-08-06 09:50:52 ⋅ 4mn No. 281965

maybe i am a bit racist but i struggle to understand how africans manage to recognize each other, even on picture like this, do you recognize faces? Can you say that "oh, this one is Bobo, this one is Nugabe, and this one is Mukasa." And if they switch places, can you recognize them again? What if there is even less lighting and it happens at the evening?

Bernd 2023-08-06 09:54:16 ⋅ 4mn No. 281966

i mean consider how hard it is to recognize some faces, if they all wear uniforms, no beard, no hearcut, all little big swollen african faces. In this situation media can be showing you some guy and claim its the leader of the coup from recent video, but it could be in reality a one year old video of some other army officer in another country. and you won't be able to tell!

Bernd 2023-08-06 10:03:03 ⋅ 4mn No. 281968

meeting of ECOWAS cheifs of staff, they say they have some plan now. They actually had no pre-prepared plans for situation like this and i bet were very angry at ecowas leadership which are politicians - they put millitary in this difficult situation. Of course Nigerian millitary has to do all the heavy lifting, but they have no senate permission, so what now? And what can other countries contribute? What can Liberian millitary add to this invasion? How can Guinea-Bissau add to this? What significance Gambia and Capo Verde millitaries have that can contribute to the invasion? How stronk do you think the army of Togo? What kind of expertise the army of Sierra Leone can provide? Those are silly questions. And i mean...imagine the smell in this room.

Bernd 2023-08-06 14:29:36 ⋅ 4mn No. 281998

Турист - the movie https://invidious.protokolla.fi/watch?v=PSsMOJCT6PE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PSsMOJCT6PE

Bernd 2023-08-07 10:15:37 ⋅ 4mn No. 282067

Huge rally in Niger capital where Generals are celebrated like rock stars. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFtcdY2eLb8 Also, why they fuck they keep waving Russian flags? We are busy in Ukraine, no resources, and even Wagner forces are kinda in uncharted waters now, not as stronk as before, probably not as capable as before after their march on Moscow. People of Niger only making situation worse by waving Russian flags, because Western media uses it to deligitimize their struggle

Bernd 2023-08-07 10:21:55 ⋅ 4mn No. 282068

>>282067 > Wagner forces are kinda in uncharted waters now, not as stronk as before, probably not as capable as before Probably not but I think they still have a lot of influence in Africa (Mali for example which is next to Niger)

Bernd 2023-08-07 10:31:28 ⋅ 4mn No. 282069

>>282068 a lot of them returned to Russia, to fight in Ukraine. International media just talks about Wagner, as if they are some huge force and all they show is ocassionally 2-5 masked guys who stand next to president of some country. Its inconsequential, absolutelly insignifican little speck that is getting blown out of proportion, to justify Western involvment in the region, because Westerners don't give a fuck about Africa, unless there is China or Russia somehow involved. And if RU or China are involved, Western countries want them out and after that they again want to return to the state of "Not-giving a fuck about Africa".

Bernd 2023-08-08 07:13:00 ⋅ 4mn No. 282190

Wagner is in a bunch of place. Bit further in CAR too. Africa doesn't even need large contingents of them at these places. Wagner was 8K strong at Soledar. And fattened up to 50K by the end of Bakhmut. Even if they were deflated back to 8K or less, plenty of Waginers to spread all around. Plus fair chance Chiner helps out in Africa in some ways, transportation, supplies.

Bernd 2023-08-08 07:15:51 ⋅ 4mn No. 282191

Map with relevant numbers. From a dozen to couple hundred musicians is enought to play the flute depending on the situation.

Bernd 2023-08-08 08:13:15 ⋅ 4mn No. 282204

>>282190 >fair chance Chiner helps No, simply no. Stop bullshitting and pulling shit out of your ass in spirit " IT was real in my mind". China is not involved in it at all, not a whiff, not a puff, not even an atom of Chinese involvment in this coup shit. They don't do this shit and not getting even by tenth feet long pole to this. Americans soft-couped pro-Chinese leader of Pakistan, which is straight on Chinese border, and Chinese did nothing about the country which is closest to them. China simply doesn't get involved in this shit.

Bernd 2023-08-08 08:16:50 ⋅ 4mn No. 282206

Military of Guinea-Bissau has T-34 tanks Guinea-Bissau is part of ECOWAS Will we see T-34 tanks involved in the battle?

Bernd 2023-08-08 11:32:59 ⋅ 4mn No. 282212

>>282204 Wipe the foam off from the corner of your mouth. But is interesting that after I wrote China helps Wagner with certain stuff like supplies and transport you conclude: >China is not involved in it at all, not a whiff, not a puff, not even an atom of Chinese involvment in this coup shit. which means I implied China helped the coup by helping Wagner... Which means you are actually thinking Wagner did the coup. >China simply doesn't get involved in this shit China did great investments all over Africa. She will not just protect the investments, but will nudge governments and power structures in a way that will help her.

Bernd 2023-08-08 11:49:07 ⋅ 4mn No. 282214

>>282212 No, China is a dumb country that is ruled by principle of non-involvment to the point where they are agreeing to suffer billions of dollars of investment, but won't lift a finger to change the situation on the ground, because it would involve their action. China is THIS DUMB. But at the same time, they are doing this, because they don't want to get trapped like Americans who to protect their billions of investments ready to enter wars that cost them trillions of $. Also, Chinese have horrible understanding of other countries, they are SHIT at understanding motivations of actors of those local countries, so they don't even bother.

Bernd 2023-08-08 11:52:41 ⋅ 4mn No. 282216

>China this, Africa that China isn't even involved on this side of Africa, virtually all their involvment has been east side. Oh yea, in other news: >The delegation from Ecowas, the United Nations and the African Union, which was due to arrive in Niamey on August 8, was refused entry to the country by the putschists.

Bernd 2023-08-08 18:44:57 ⋅ 4mn No. 282256

Some draft of ECOWAS invasion plan floating around 25000 soldiers total. More than half would be from Nigeria, the rest are from Benin, Ivory Coast and Senegal. How is it known? Oh, just imagine how bad is OPSEC of Africans, lol. I bet there are sooooo many people in millitary command of ECOWAS countries, who symphatetic to millitary coup leaders of Niger and could possibly leak to them information from ECOWAS millitry meetings.

Bernd 2023-08-08 18:52:36 ⋅ 4mn No. 282257

>>282256 >25000 soldiers total. More than half would be from Nigeria, the rest are from Benin, Ivory Coast and Senegal. Sounds fair. Nigeria claims to be more than half of ECOWAS population.

Bernd 2023-08-08 19:01:52 ⋅ 4mn No. 282259

>>282257 I just question the whole stupid operation. What are they going to do - start a rescue operation of ousted Bazoum ? If i were coup leaders, i'd just shoot the motherfucker in the back of his head the moment ecowas forces cross the border. So what are they going to do next - try to occupy the capital? Its going to be total disorganized chaos. Just because even the most elite Nigerian soldiers are not even compared to the lowest of the low European soldiers, one Russian mobik has more discipline and promise then their best of the best. Just look at this shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=smrS4ZUKnrQ This low IQ material can't even march properly, physical shape horrible, mismatch, no discipline, their commanders can't even speak properly. No wonder this idiotic army can't eliminate Boko Haram for ages. And now we supposed to believe this special olympics team can conduct a complex urban warfare and hostage rescue operation. No chance.

Bernd 2023-08-09 08:54:37 ⋅ 4mn No. 282294

>>282214 >China is dumb country What you wrote is dumb. Also propaganda, to make China look harmless. And my original point was: China helps out Wagner with supplies and transport and whatever. I did not say: 1. Wagner made the Nigerian coup 2. China made Nigerian coup 3. China makes war in Africa It is really a huge leap from what I wrote, so huge that in fact is a strawman fallacy on your behalf suggesting that. But since we are here it's also dumb suggesting that China doesn't try manipulating globally. And the CCP and government doesn't have to do it directly, just allow private and semi-private corporations to do things. >>282216 That is also dumb. Just because China only had "base" in Djibouti (in 2014 or so, since then god knows what they have and where), it doesn't mean China doesn't have presence elsewhere. They have companies, representatives, workers, offices, warehouses, ports, docks whatever. Just search "chinese in africa". Yes, this is a legit way of giving source in this case. It is very easy for Wagner to contract with a Chinese company to supply them fuel or MRE's, or auto parts, and so on.

Bernd 2023-08-09 09:18:31 ⋅ 4mn No. 282299

>>282294 You haven't yet proved a single contact between Wagner and China - its again "i want to believe it, so its real in my mind, so it must be true!" You nigger is suggesting that Chinese enteties would be dealing with paramillitary organisation from Russia which at some point challenged Putin himself. You absolutelly incapable of understanding how things run in China and in Russia. China is a cucked nation, where abroad there is no independent initiative, everyone listens to what foreign ministry of China, and they do not interfere, they don't deal with qustionable warlords from Russia, and there is no grassroots shit from Chinese abroad. if Communist party of China says "Suck it, take the L, loose billions, do not respond, do not strike back, not defend yourself" - obidient China-man will do what he is told, because Communist party knows the best. That has happened countless times.

Bernd 2023-08-09 09:30:50 ⋅ 4mn No. 282300

If China would be smart country, they wouldn't send their people unprotected in Central African Republic. They would have some escort to defend them. But shit like that is not happening. And even after some niggers killed 8 China men, what does Chinese ministry do? Condemn the attack and issue warning to not travel there. Just washed their hands and forgot about their people. Didn't retaliate, because China has no assets on the ground, completelly toothless dragon. and this hungarian idiotto thinks China has some sway in Africa. All they have is money but no muscle, and completelly shackeled by toothless, incompetent and shy ministry of foreign affairs. China can only act as wolf warrior on the pages of Global times and close to its shores where they can throw rock from it, but abroad little farther than than - they don't do shit.

Bernd 2023-08-09 10:02:02 ⋅ 4mn No. 282303

>>282259 >What are they going to do - start a rescue operation of ousted Bazoum ? If i were coup leaders, i'd just shoot the motherfucker in the back of his head the moment ecowas forces cross the border. Yeah. I heard reports before going sleep, at night they moved troops towards bresidential ~~palace~~ house arrest. So clearly he's been taken hostage. >>282300 >If China would be smart country, ==ESL==

Bernd 2023-08-09 14:21:41 ⋅ 4mn No. 282317

Reports incoming that French army attacked national guard in Niger. And thats expected. There are like 1000 of French soldiers still in country, in the airfield. Smart people would turn the airfield unusable, would drive huge trucks with concrete blocks, gravel and place them on the airfield everywhere, preventing any plane from landing or taking off. But we are talking niggers in Niger here, so all this time French soldiers were still in the capital, in the airfield. They can capture airfield and then more hellicopters of French army would arrive with special forces. And then ECOWAS forces would breach the border next. but maybe its just misunderstanding or, maybe French army was defending itself from national guard of Niger, that was trying to remove them. Anyway, even in that case French might respond with something heavy handed

Bernd 2023-08-09 14:56:55 ⋅ 4mn No. 282321

>>282317 inb4 niggers fired at fagner bc they think wypepo = french

Bernd 2023-08-09 16:48:32 ⋅ 4mn No. 282335

Why don't we have discussion threads for other African ongoing conflicts? Ethiopian, Sudanese civil wars feel overlooked when you discuss Niger so much. Even Nigeria despite being the voice of ECOWAS has regions with civil war (it's more calm today but is still active).

Bernd 2023-08-09 17:13:34 ⋅ 4mn No. 282339

>>282335 Who the hell cares about Africa?

Bernd 2023-08-09 17:54:51 ⋅ 4mn No. 282344

>>282339 Africans I think

Bernd 2023-08-09 18:01:09 ⋅ 4mn No. 282345

>>282335 Tbh I care more about Sudan and Ethiopia but I'm not obsessed enough to poast about them. It would seem that the clown show in Niger has a particular propagandist value to certain groups, given that our resident rushill is creaming his panties so much in this itt thréda. >>282339 I do I live right next so I kinda have to

HAPPENINGS

Bernd 2023-08-10 20:52:36 ⋅ 4mn No. 282539

ECOWAS gives the green light for the operation to start "as soon as possible". (AFP - Ivorian president)

Bernd 2023-08-11 06:40:14 ⋅ 4mn No. 282595

>>282539 heh, not yet Junta said it bluntly, they'd just kill Bazoum in case of invasion.

Bernd 2023-08-11 08:17:10 ⋅ 4mn No. 282596

>>282595 They're gonna kill him anyway and claim French commandos tried to rescue him.

Bernd 2023-08-11 08:46:47 ⋅ 4mn No. 282601

>>282596 They kept him alive for a while, which is already strange, even gave him phone and arranged visits. Textbook for coup is to either make up a criminal case against the leader, or make him sign his own resignation order.

Bernd 2023-08-19 12:32:07 ⋅ 3mn No. 283979

New threat from ECOWAS, nigger generals gathered in sweaty rooms and got all confident. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXnc-hY_G0k

Bernd 2023-08-19 13:51:36 ⋅ 3mn No. 283991

>>283979 Wrong news of the day. The real news: A mutiny is underway at the presidential palace in Niamey. The coup is getting couped.

Bernd 2023-08-19 18:39:22 ⋅ 3mn No. 284025

>>283991 You shouldn't take news like that seriously. Just because some fag on twitter says "BREAKING NEWS OMG!!!" doesn't mean its true.

Bernd 2023-08-19 22:17:05 ⋅ 3mn No. 284049

>>284025 https://www.nairaland.com/7809395/niger-mutiny-niamey-over-unpaid

Bernd 2023-08-20 05:44:33 ⋅ 3mn No. 284080

>>284049 this is literally some nigger forum where they discuss the same twitter rumor. How dumb are you?

Bernd 2023-08-20 11:34:13 ⋅ 3mn No. 284098

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LXgDgnrmAiw

Bernd 2023-08-20 15:16:28 ⋅ 3mn No. 284111

>>284080 >haha you can't talk about china because you don't go to chinese internet sites, you only get information from cia assets. <nnnooooOOOOOO YOU GETTING INFORMATION STRAIGHT FROM NIGERIAN FORUMS DOESN'T COUNT AS FIRST HAND INFO

Bernd 2023-08-20 17:13:52 ⋅ 3mn No. 284118

>>284111 how forums of Nigeria are relevant to the situation in Niger? internet users of Nigeria are in fact the most unrelyiable source, because they speak ENGLISH, and become super motivated, but also confused. They might learn some complex English words about strategy and geopolitics, and they have magical thinking about those words and concepts as if they are real, and not some imagined word by some Westerner that was usefull for describing some situation in the past in very specific geographical setting. People of Nigeria in that sense are similar to people of India, they are like children, they use big words without understanding their meaning and context of origin, following artificial geopolitical concepts as if those are deities. And people of Niger are francophones, so there is a language gap between them and people of Nigeria. And people of Niger probably don't have enough electricity to use a lot of internet and express their views online at this moment. its been a day, no counter-coup in sight. In fact everyone is rallying around Tchiani. you don't need some CIA level analys for this to be understood.

Bernd 2023-08-20 19:33:03 ⋅ 3mn No. 284137

Back to my point that China is retarded no security in place when building those over-seas projects. Little problem starts, and they stop immidiatelly. if China and USA would go to war, Americans probably wouldn't be able to do much to Mainland China, but they would fucking slaughter millions of Chinese overseas who are constructing these belt and road projects, and China won't be able to do shit

Bernd 2023-08-20 21:28:27 ⋅ 3mn No. 284147

>>284118 >internet users of Nigeria are in fact the most unrelyiable source, because they speak ENGLISH >And people of Niger are francophones, so there is a language gap between them and people of Nigeria. Wrong, Hausa (and simply Hausa-speaking (as well as Fulani-speaking)) speak on both sides of the border, which is mostly just administrative and not controlled at all.

Bernd 2023-08-21 16:30:36 ⋅ 3mn No. 284215

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iX1SX5LcS2E

Bernd 2023-08-21 18:07:45 ⋅ 3mn No. 284228

He is back in Africa. Maybe in CAR, maybe Mali

Bernd 2023-08-21 18:25:19 ⋅ 3mn No. 284235

>>281242 NORINCO is getting bigger, but not enough bigger. Americans can strongly yank the chain of Africans if they get too close to Chinese MIC, possibly by triggering coups themselves in West African countries. Coups will be abundant. Metar Gear Rising predicted it.

Bernd 2023-08-21 18:29:21 ⋅ 3mn No. 284236

Senegalese are posers though

Bernd 2023-08-21 18:38:39 ⋅ 3mn No. 284241

>>281345 how can she have such good teeth in Mali? They have good stomatologists or something?

Bernd 2023-08-21 18:49:56 ⋅ 3mn No. 284245

>>282335 Just make your own thread about those conflicts and be autistic enough to constantly post in them, but those conflicts are not as intresting though Like Ethiopian and Sudanese conflicts are getting frozen. Big distances, lack of control from central government due to distance from metropolis, more of a grassroot support from locals in remote areas for rebels create stalemate situations with frozen conflict. Like there was always war in Somalia, with Somaliland semi-independent and central government of Somalia unable to control it. Or West Saharan independence shit from Morocco? That situation is frozen for decades. Same frozen state can happen to Ethiopia, Sudan, Lybia. Even if ECOWAS wins and takes Niamey, then Niger coup leaders could retreat to desert somewhere or Burkina Faso and country of Niger could be split in two, with another frozen conflict for decades potentially. but for now this West African vibe-move is intresting though

Bernd 2023-08-23 16:13:42 ⋅ 3mn No. 284534

Something is happening with ECOWAS preparing millitary forces France is helping somehow Just rumors, hush-hush

Bernd 2023-08-23 17:03:53 ⋅ 3mn No. 284543

fuggggggggggg i don't feel so good

Bernd 2023-08-23 17:12:16 ⋅ 3mn No. 284548

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4xWbRBLj2I

Bernd 2023-08-23 17:16:08 ⋅ 3mn No. 284552

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zchRNTH05LU

Bernd 2023-08-23 17:19:15 ⋅ 3mn No. 284553

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Me-_v7NzEg

Bernd 2023-08-23 18:25:15 ⋅ 3mn No. 284563

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KR_SCOxWmas

Bernd 2023-08-23 23:42:45 ⋅ 3mn No. 284613

>>284563 >>284553 >>284548 Fuck, they really took him out... Who's gonna be the head of Wagner now?

Bernd 2023-08-24 06:11:26 ⋅ 3mn No. 284658

>>284613 >Who's gonna be the head of Wagner now?

Bernd 2023-08-25 15:16:52 ⋅ 3mn No. 284858

>>284658 Too bad, these two were even good friends not long ago.

Bernd 2023-08-25 18:11:36 ⋅ 3mn No. 284885

>>281189 Are they hiring mercenaries?

Bernd 2023-08-25 19:01:23 ⋅ 3mn No. 284897

French ambo ordered to leave Niger in 48 hours

Bernd 2023-08-28 11:07:27 ⋅ 3mn No. 285318

France ignores demands to vacate embassy some French Officials supposedly claim that they can support ECOWAS invasion. Its like subtle weight they try to put into consideration, like saying "Invade, we will support you, go on!"

COUP GABON

Bernd 2023-08-30 06:09:55 ⋅ 3mn No. 285623

GABON COUP COUP GABON

Bernd 2023-08-30 06:26:29 ⋅ 3mn No. 285625

So what will happen to Chinese projects in Gabon now? I guess Communist party of China wil just swallow this as usual. Hope Chinese workers in Gabon can safely leave. Maybe FRANCE will even help them with that, because China clearly can't do shit. Every coup and instability in Africa is just nullifying decades of Chinese investment, and China can do is...take it. No lessons will be learnt after this, believe me.

Bernd 2023-08-30 06:38:28 ⋅ 3mn No. 285627

This could be just the start of West-Central African collapse. I already said it here - >>281421 Cameroon is a ticking time bomb, because of its ailing dictator. Now Gabon is couping. But there is also Equatorial Guinea with its old Obiang Nguema clinging to power in his cheerful 81 years old. The old fool may hope to leave power to his son Teodorin Nguema, who is his vice president, but that youngster(55) already proved to be corrupt and not very popular. Definatelly not the horse to bet on for smooth transition.

Bernd 2023-08-30 07:03:35 ⋅ 3mn No. 285631

People often talk about Democratic republic of the Congo in one context - its cobalt mining and how its BAD and exploitative. Just give your head a ponder - they only care about a giant african country's existance only to value signal a few seconds in a year, lamenting how they have bad workers conditions that somehow alow us rich and sophisticated westerners to have expensive electric cars, and at the back of their heads they have an unspoken thought that maybe the suffering of those children well worth it so we could live and drive so nicely, its never spoken outloud, but they feel it. Another context in which i seen people even mention DRC is remembering Dutch genocide of old. But thats it - NO ONE GIVES A FUCK ABOUT DRC, outside of those 2 virtue signaling topics that are being brought up maybe to maintain 10 second of conversation on the interner. But i am talking about Democratic Republic of the Congo right now. Besides DRC there is also simply REPUBLIC OF THE CONGO without the word Democratic in front of it. Oooooooohhhh i haven't seen a single faggot online bring up this country in conversation EVER. EEEEEEEEEVEEEEEER. It almost like never exists. Its very similar situation like with Niger and Nigeria. Similar names, right? Niger always in the shadow of Nigeria. And Republic of the Congo always in the shadow of Democratic republic of the Congo. Now even in search engines like Google if you search for Republic of the Congo content and images, you will be offered content from Democratic republic of the Congo, the algorithm simply fills in the word "democratic" as if suggesting you forgot to mention it in your search request. And this is the shadow of obscurity and i-dont-give-a-fuckism that allows for preudo-democratic dictatorship to thrive in Republic of Congo. Because the current president of Republic of the Congo is this guy. Denis Sassou Nguesso. Another youngling in his full of energy 79 years old. Been president from 1997, longer than Putin. He also changed the constitution just like Putin to allow him to run for power longer, despite previous constitutional terms limits. If shit hits the fan, millitary can depose of this motherfucker too.

Bernd 2023-08-30 07:32:10 ⋅ 3mn No. 285635

>>285623 but also could be that 2023 Gabon coup is another nothingburger like in 2019 back then in 2019 a group of officers just captured radio tower and proclaimed that they have control of the country, and then swat Gendarmerie just showed up, killed and disciplined them. Dumb thing is - Bongo wasn't even in the country when it happened. So the dictator was ABROAD, and they couldn't pull it off in his absence. I mean - niggers be niggers, not known for planning, but don't fail so badly, its embarassing

Bernd 2023-08-30 08:32:07 ⋅ 3mn No. 285637

>>285627 Equatorial Guinea is a strange county really, they have a capital - on the island Bioko! And what about this bigger swath of land in Africa proper? Its embarassing that the capital is separated from the land. So the dictator lives in a palace on the island, completelly unaware about whats happening in the mainland, probably doesn't even care. So whole country could erupt in a civil war in the mainland EG, but as long as Nguema controls the island, he can pretend to be a president. Rioters from mainland would probably not reach him in Bioko. The island Bioko is a real prime estate of Africa. And it is closer to Cameroon, than it is close to Equatorial Guinea mainland! If Nigeria or Cameroon want it, in case of instability in EG, they can capture Bioko in the future. Prime real estate, prime estate i tell you! There aren't many places like that in all around Africa.

Bernd 2023-08-30 10:12:40 ⋅ 3mn No. 285642

Protesters smearing feces on election billboards of Gabon president. You just know that people of Cameroon, Equatorial Guinea and Republic of the Congo all want to do the same to their old faggot dictators who overstayed their welcome by several decades.

Bernd 2023-08-30 14:15:34 ⋅ 3mn No. 285655

Someone is suggesting that Jean Ping could become new president of Gabon for transitional period no way lol that would be a funny twist. The guy is half-Chinese, run in 2016 and lost

Bernd 2023-08-30 18:40:54 ⋅ 3mn No. 285705

The countries of Africa and upcoming presidential election dates in them that could be the hot-days. upcoming 4 years could be hot with elections in atleast 3 countries per year, or ...it could be mild and underwhelming

Bernd 2023-08-30 19:17:09 ⋅ 3mn No. 285714

President of Uganda Yoweri Kaguta Museveni (age 78)

Bernd 2023-08-30 19:25:17 ⋅ 3mn No. 285717

Next year in 2024 there are going to be presidential elections in South Africa also. ANC has been losing support, so maybe, just maybe, of course with very low chances - there could be, even though no one really believes it, there could be some out of the blue chance that ANC candidate will lose the election although i don't really believe it, but maaaaayhapse

Bernd 2023-08-30 19:48:16 ⋅ 3mn No. 285724

also at the end of this year - Liberia and Madagascar Liberia election will be "Who is more globohomo???" Madagascar election is unspeakable stupidity and pure retardation, can't put into words

Bernd 2023-08-31 08:45:30 ⋅ 3mn No. 285807

Panic mode? Cameroonian dictator is sacking his millitary out of fear he could get couped.

Bernd 2023-08-31 08:48:04 ⋅ 3mn No. 285808

chess moves

Bernd 2023-08-31 11:50:16 ⋅ 3mn No. 285813

Tep lol. Africa going to hui not even 2 years after Macron starting to finally pull out is such poetic justice. https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/07/07/france-military-leaving-west-africa-colonialism-macron/ https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/feb/27/macron-pledges-to-reduce-french-military-presence-in-africa https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2023/3/2/macron-says-era-of-french-interference-in-africa-is-over Niggers can finally get what they deserve. Dumb niggers: "we hate frons, get out" Gigachad Macron: "ok" Africa: *goes to hui* https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-64397730

Bernd 2023-08-31 13:31:06 ⋅ 3mn No. 285821

>>285813 It was just "talk" from Macron, he didn't leave anything. Troops just re-deployed in Niger from Chad. And troops left Burkina Faso and Mali not because he generously decreed so, but because locals demanded it. And to this day troops were still in Gabon. Macron and his bootlickers just run a propaganda damage control, pretending they are leaving Africa, only to fool fools like you who believe WORDS, and don't look for actions. In Soviet times we made this cartoon, its called "Phrases and bases". A little jew in back pocket is talking big words about peace, defence, disarmament, while the big general in the background is charting the construction and locations of new bases. Its so funny, how this true up to this day. And PHRASES still work on the likes of you it seems.

Bernd 2023-08-31 13:36:19 ⋅ 3mn No. 285822

>>285655 Less funny news some general named Nguema named as the transitional leader. Another fucking NGUEMA. Don't they have enough of the Nguema bastart in Equatorial Guinea? This one seem to have property in USA, and really corrupt.

Bernd 2023-08-31 15:55:29 ⋅ 3mn No. 285841

>>285821 Hurr durr. Somehow, in zigger mind, Macron is simultaneously a danger for safety and order in Africa who will just roll in and bomb a country any moment if they dare abolish Franc and French language, and someone who packs up his army and leaves the moment locals demand it. Obviously something doesn't fit, don't you think? Well – let me explain – the only reason Macron didn't leave everything yet is because too many regimes still rely on his troops, and he cannot afford to just disappear over night.

Bernd 2023-08-31 15:58:58 ⋅ 3mn No. 285842

>>285841 >France, the daring imperialist powerhouse. They were just ridding the momentum of XX century colonialism. Real imperialist gringo paid motherfuckers already started couping Africa (again). https://edition.cnn.com/2023/08/30/africa/gabon-military-officers-say-power-seized-election-intl-hnk/index.html

Bernd 2023-08-31 16:01:34 ⋅ 3mn No. 285844

>>285842 Yes. And Macron was literally in Gabon 6 months ago to tell Bongo he's on his own. https://www.voaafrica.com/a/french-influence-finished-macron/6986482.html

Bernd 2023-08-31 16:07:34 ⋅ 3mn No. 285845

>Residents in the economic capital of Ivory Coast are reacting to the announcement by French President Emmanuel Macron that France will reduce the number of troops in Africa. In Abidjan, some locals welcomed the news, while others expressed misgivings about the reduced military support. worry.png

Bernd 2023-08-31 17:00:51 ⋅ 3mn No. 285847

>>285841 >someone who packs up his army and leaves the moment locals demand it It depends on the circumstances. THe bastard WOULDN'T leave if those coups wouldn't happen. And even now in Niger he still wants to keep his Ambassador in the harms way as the possible pretext for invasion. Niger demands ambassador to leave, and he continues to defy local demands so that later he could claim "self-defence" if they force him to leave. >many regimes still rely on his troops, Fuck off with this SHIT. If France wanted, Boko Haram and ISIS would be eradicated in minutes. They have the most sophisticated drones and missiles, constant surveilance. Americans and French allow those millitants to exist and even help the terrorists, so they would have the pretext for their troops to be in the country. Americans and French create instability themselves, and then offer "protection" from the problems they orchestrate. If NATO wouldn't have bombed Lybia in the first place, there wouldn't be any problems in Niger region, there wouldn't be any flow of weapons, Gaddafi kept the islamists in check.

Bernd 2023-08-31 17:08:20 ⋅ 3mn No. 285848

>>285845>>285844 >he uses Voice of America as a source ngmi

Bernd 2023-08-31 17:57:55 ⋅ 3mn No. 285855

>>285848 Are you going to tell Macron going to Gabon and giving his speech about pulling out didn't happen?

Bernd 2023-08-31 19:52:12 ⋅ 3mn No. 285878

>>285848 Attacking the source instead of the argument is equivalent to conceding the point/debate while throwing a tantrum until you get croup. Also Macron doesn't wanted to leave because france was too comfy stealing uranium for their power plants, feigning otherwise is either gullible or dumb. Now the gringos stole france's free ride.

Bernd 2023-08-31 20:40:17 ⋅ 3mn No. 285886

>>285855 Must i repeat myself? Speeches and words don't matter. ACTIONS matter. I can say to you that i want to help you and heal you, while twisting a knife in your liver, pulling out and striking again. My eyes would be teary and full of compassion, my words would be about how i really want to help you and guide you to safety, while my hands would be severing the very organs that give you life. But i guess, you would ignore the knife blade, and be like "Wow, this guy really wants to help me, he says so! He gives me the whole speech, his words are on my side, so maybe whatever he does with his hands is just a mistake or maybe i am just imagining it".

Bernd 2023-08-31 20:45:08 ⋅ 3mn No. 285888

>>285878 Mexican wouldn't understand why Russians hate Voice of America. Its a long story. Maybe you are so misguided you consider yourself part of AMERICA and even defend this propaganda outlet out of sheer stupidity.

Bernd 2023-08-31 20:57:50 ⋅ 3mn No. 285890

>>285886 Yes. And I already analyzed the actions for you in >>285841.

Bernd 2023-08-31 21:15:21 ⋅ 3mn No. 285892

>>285890 You try to defend France, portraying their actions as if some voluntary, benevolent yet naive exit, when there was no exit. He didn't leave a single country on his own accord, without the local populace revolting against his goons first. And the only reason France didn't just re-invade with hard force, putting a boot on the uppity nigger's throat, showing them who is boss, the only reason they dont do so is because they can't do it now so openly, when everyone already hates them. Macron is afraid that he will get into another Afghanistan type war without victory, where every local will hate them, and niggers at home, in France, in Paris would also start revolting in support of overseas niggers. So Macron wants to strike balance of pleasing niggers with lies about how he wants to leave Africa alone, while trying to conserve and save whatever little holdouts his pathetic country still holds in Africa, by using proxies like ECOWAS(the oil and trade from ecowas countries tied to France, France even prints their currency, owns them),l ocal old fuck dictators and their crony families who love to have drug induced FUN in France >>281261 and local terrorists groups that are not being destroyed, but getting fed with weapons from deteriorating Lybia situation. I also wouldn't be surprised that France deliberatelly releases some ISIS members from prisons and organises them tours into Africa. Because if there will be a nest of ISIS in Africa, then France can always say " We needed there, you African countries can't deal without us with this threat, so WE NEED TO BE HERE, WE NEED TO BE HERE TO DEAL WITH THIS".

Bernd 2023-08-31 21:33:15 ⋅ 3mn No. 285895

>>285888 >I can't build a counterargument even if my life depends on it. Yeah, I've noticed. I use right winger media to counter right winger talking points all the time. You're just making lame excuses.

Bernd 2023-08-31 21:36:55 ⋅ 3mn No. 285897

>>285895 >nigger thinks i am going to engage in VoA talking points lmao. You get a stream of piss in your face, thats all you can ask for.

Bernd 2023-08-31 21:38:28 ⋅ 3mn No. 285898

>>285892 >He didn't leave a single country on his own accord In last 6 months? I don't think that's enough to transit operations to local forces. Of course, if the local forces don't want to take over and only want French to leave, it makes it simpler. France did return a military base to Senegal in 2010, though. Not Macron but it shows it can and has been done.

Bernd 2023-08-31 21:40:58 ⋅ 3mn No. 285899

>>285892 >l ocal old fuck dictators and their crony families who love to have drug induced FUN in France Certain other dictators in the region prefer to have their sons have such on Poccnr tho 🙃

Bernd 2023-08-31 21:54:23 ⋅ 3mn No. 285902

>>285898 kekekekekekekeke i wonder what will happen with that base in Senegal in less than a year https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PUelIukoZow

Bernd 2023-09-02 09:43:50 ⋅ 3mn No. 286049

Africans be like >Fuck the anticrist! I hate UN, i will stay in my church, thank you >DR Congo: DEATH TO YOU!!!!

Bernd 2023-09-02 16:02:00 ⋅ 3mn No. 286076

>>286049 Based Doctor Congo.

Bernd 2023-09-03 09:55:54 ⋅ 3mn No. 286199

Funny thing - protestors don't demand AMERICAN millitary base to leave. So some question if this coup was orchestrated by USA to fuck with France. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vv362-RTSDU

Bernd 2023-09-04 16:08:16 ⋅ 3mn No. 286381

Nguema became the president of Gabon. Why so many medals? Seems over the top. Could be bad, telling about big Ego. For comparison, here is Burkinabe millitary leader swearing oath. Not much gold, simple millitary uniform, not much pretension https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sRjEyGrY4Oo

Bernd 2023-09-04 17:28:46 ⋅ 3mn No. 286387

Why younger - better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzKp-DHkFqA

Bernd 2023-09-05 07:26:36 ⋅ 3mn No. 286497

> The production of CFA franc notes has been carried out at Chamalières by the Bank of France since its creation in 1945.

Bernd 2023-09-05 08:04:56 ⋅ 3mn No. 286498

>>286497 They're free to leave at any time. They don't seem to want to, because having a stable economy is too hard. Ask Montenegro or Kosovo, they prefer to illegally use euros instead of printing own currency.

Bernd 2023-09-05 08:59:37 ⋅ 3mn No. 286505

>>286498 They'll leave, its not like these coins are somehow hard to print. Its just a matter of time, as i keep pointing out the influence of France is hanging by the very fragile net of OLD-FUCKS who are completelly out of touch with people in their countries. OlD-FUCKS will die I don't mean to say that what is going to replace them is going to be better. Other corrupt regimes will come, with ties to the Gulf and China. But don't bet on anyone being nostalgic about France.

Bernd 2023-09-05 11:26:26 ⋅ 3mn No. 286512

>>286505 If the people are not nostalgic about France, why do they all want to migrate there?

Bernd 2023-09-05 11:57:02 ⋅ 3mn No. 286515

>>286512 They are running FROM poverty, not towards France.

Bernd 2023-09-05 11:58:51 ⋅ 3mn No. 286516

The whole fighting in Sudan started allegedly because paramilitary didn't want to merge with army, and now they like "Welp, we changed our mind, now we want to merge". So stupid. If they just accepted it from the begining, they could have avoided so many deaths.

Bernd 2023-09-05 12:12:06 ⋅ 3mn No. 286517

>>286515 Then why are they running to France specifically, and not so much any other country?

Bernd 2023-09-05 12:20:06 ⋅ 3mn No. 286518

>>286517 Because they speak French, dum-dum, easy to go to that country. And because there are already established routes, with different scumbags promising to people the transit. its business - smuggling people. They sell what they have at home, gather money and pay to some faggot who using some route leads them to France.

Bernd 2023-09-05 12:27:04 ⋅ 3mn No. 286520

>>286518 They speak French in Belgium and Canada too, why don't they prefer to go to any of those if they actually hate France so much?

Bernd 2023-09-05 12:34:30 ⋅ 3mn No. 286521

>>286520 but they do - a lot of them arrive in France, as a stopping point, earn some money or legalize there and then spread to EU countries. Canada also accepts a tonn of them, its just farther.

Bernd 2023-09-05 13:15:34 ⋅ 3mn No. 286523

also - going to country doesn't mean they love the country. Lots of central asians don't really love Russia, but come here because there is no work at home. literally, you can be young guy in Tajikistan, and nothing to do. No vacancy, not many companies, not even shitty work. So they come to Russia, because there is work and because they can earn more here and send money abroad to home.(harder with banking sanctions now, lol) Same with mexoids and USA - they coming to USA doesn't mean they love country. They USE it.

Bernd 2023-09-06 12:16:18 ⋅ 3mn No. 286664

Chinese influence in Africa can be negatve. Because to snub China, the Americans need to support the brutal dictator of Eswatini, whos little fiefdom still has relations with Taiwan. So to maintain this sharade of official recognition of Taiwan by a single African "nation", Americans and their human rights puppets close their eyes to everything that is happening in Eswatini.

Bernd 2023-09-06 12:27:28 ⋅ 3mn No. 286667

>>286664 The Swazian monarchy is one of the last remaining (trad & based) traditional monarchies in Africa. Their sole existence makes progressivists, 3rdworldists, anticolonialists, &c. seethe, because it utterly btfos their narratives about Africa.

Bernd 2023-09-06 13:49:11 ⋅ 3mn No. 286670

>>286667 If some dictatorship names itself monarchy and puts on a few ceremonial trinkets, you ready to fall on your knees and suck their cock, just for aesthetic and because it affirms the existance of some long rotten foundation for a handfull of philosophical doctrines and views. Tahats just silly. I wouldn't mind Swazian monarchy if the monarch would be smart and lead his country to prosperity. Instead the country is in shit. 27.2% of the population have AIDS. That is 1 out of 4 people in his kingdom have AIDs. Probably the king himself caught it, so his royal bloodline is forever tainted. I am not going to kiss his poz-dick, like you do.

Bernd 2023-09-06 13:57:16 ⋅ 3mn No. 286672

>>286670 >27.2% of the population have AIDS. That is 1 out of 4 people in his kingdom have AIDs. Same as everyone else in the region, yeah. Also, I believe those are stats for adult population, not general pop.

Bernd 2023-09-06 14:23:03 ⋅ 3mn No. 286676

>>286672 >for adult population, not general pop AIDS is spreading to children too and life expectancy in Eswatini is merely 58 years old. So hard to imagine some wide unaffected strata not represented by this statistic. The more i read about this king, the less i like it. Apparently his goons can just abduct women on the street and force them to become his wives, or rather personal sex-slaves. The guy is riding around schools in his expensive cars (which you can't photograph by law) and looking for young girls to abduct? Mega-creep. But you don't hear about this shit on the daily news, because its important to have a checkmark around "African nations recognizing Taiwan - 1"

Bernd 2023-09-06 14:43:19 ⋅ 3mn No. 286679

>>286676 Read the full story, it is obvious that what happened is she (aged 18) agreed to marry but mother didn't.

Bernd 2023-09-06 15:02:24 ⋅ 3mn No. 286682

>>286679 The lawyers weren't allowed to visit her and even establish her consent. So of course, he could hold her prisioner in the palace, isolated from the rest of the world, outside of any help and present her to her fate as a fact. If you want to masturbate to monarchies, go and worship Ugandan monarch kingdoms. There are apparently 5 monarchs in Uganda, with their own little fiefdoms and if Uganda collapses(due to shit like this >>285714 ), they would become independent. Atleast they are not as disgusting as this Eswatini. At some point this little kingdom of shame will crumble and truth will be uncovered. I bet there are hundreds of corpses under the palace.

Bernd 2023-09-06 15:10:15 ⋅ 3mn No. 286685

>>286682 There is nothing to uncover, because monarchies are honest about the political power. Unlike certain farcical systems who try to bury it under legalism and sham parliaments.

Bernd 2023-09-09 19:00:29 ⋅ 3mn No. 287187

Lol, i just can't stop laughing at this news title for some reason. There so many edges of humor and irony.

Bernd 2023-09-10 11:19:08 ⋅ 3mn No. 287261

Its not over

Bernd 2023-09-10 13:24:24 ⋅ 3mn No. 287265

what the fuck is an ecowas

Bernd 2023-09-11 06:43:29 ⋅ 2mn No. 287352

>>287265 economic union that also does millitary invasions sometimes

Bernd 2023-09-12 18:25:18 ⋅ 2mn No. 287544

https://www.france24.com/en/video/20230911-nigeria-s-troubled-economy-country-hit-hard-by-sanctions-against-neighbouring-niger Niggers place economic sanctions on niggers, niggers hardest hit

Bernd 2023-09-17 11:20:14 ⋅ 2mn No. 288216

Now its official - the Alliance of Sahel States (AES) to think, it was all avoidable, it was not necessary, it wasn't guaranteed to be established, but it was PUSHED INTO REALITY by weak yet agressive ECOWAS threats. And who is to blame? You should blame Bola Tinubu, the president of Nigeria. He is the head of ECOWAS, he made strong warning against coup in the region just month before one happend in Niger, he is also weak because his election was contested in courts, so he wanted to appear strong and he made those dumb threats and ultimatum against Niger, that was ignored but the bell of the threat rung loud and sound, forcing Sahel states closer together.

Bernd 2023-09-17 11:45:59 ⋅ 2mn No. 288218

>>288216 this is also bad news for Touareg and i want cute Touareg wifu

Bernd 2023-09-21 19:27:52 ⋅ 2mn No. 288728

WHat a fat fuck, he can only complain >He expressed frustration that the heavily-funded mission of about 15,000 peacekeepers “has failed to confront the rebellions and armed conflicts, and protect the civilian populations.” 15K is a fucking drop in the bucket, if you consider the size of Congo. Dumb cunt sucker nigger. UN needs around 400K with tanks, satellites, drones and combat aircraft to control this fucking jungle hell. And if even those mere 15K will go, the situation will deteriorate even further.

Bernd 2023-09-21 19:52:03 ⋅ 2mn No. 288731

>>288218 I should become a warlord on the saharas

Bernd 2023-09-21 19:54:57 ⋅ 2mn No. 288732

listenings to the new bombino album btw.

Bernd 2023-10-20 07:42:31 ⋅ 1mn No. 291686

>>285631 Xi is really struggling to smile while shaking hand of this mummy

Bernd 2023-10-22 09:32:40 ⋅ 1mn No. 291826

>Kenya, Ghana, and the Democratic Republic of Congo are some of the African countries whose leaders have shown support for Israel despite growing global condemnation. So, what is it about those countries? What do they have in common? I have to study it, but meanwhile lets just assign them the tag "pro-Israel bitches of Africa" or simply PIBA and then later discover the reasons. Tag PIBA contains - Ghana - Kenya - Democratic Republic of Congo The reasons for support of Israel currently unknown. Investigation pending.

Bernd 2023-10-22 16:34:23 ⋅ 1mn No. 291840

>>291826 >So, what is it about those countries? What do they have in common? They're successful rather than just another shithole.

Bernd 2023-10-22 21:22:00 ⋅ 1mn No. 291856

>>291840 Since when Democratic Republic of Congo is not a shithole? Its this fat fuck nigger >>288728 who only whines that little Rwanda is bullying him, by sending fighters that help local militia his country can't squash for decades. I don't know much about DRC, but i guess there isn't much to learn - a bunch of rich niggers live near the ocean in the capital and don't give a fuck about whats happening inside the country, having defacto no control over the matter

Bernd 2023-10-23 08:28:54 ⋅ 1mn No. 291876

Average IQ: Ghanna - 58 DRC - 64 Kenya - 74 Wow, Kenya is approaching Indian levels of IQ.

Bernd 2023-10-23 08:30:51 ⋅ 1mn No. 291877

i wonder what its like to live in a country with sub 50 IQ population. Is it possible to trick adults there like kids?

Bernd 2023-10-24 21:20:51 ⋅ 1mn No. 291968

>>291877 >Nepal No wonder they only have communists.

Bernd 2023-10-25 01:40:18 ⋅ 1mn No. 291979

>>291877 They probably have street smarts, just performing bad in those retard 1st world tests

Bernd 2023-10-25 10:33:12 ⋅ 1mn No. 292013

>>291979 maybe, but in general population is pretty stupid in many African countries. They have peopel who say "I can heal you if you have sex with me, if you don't i curse you." And women believe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOtKHOFsTYs They accuse children of being witches https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ot-Z-Tg1RE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6cc11qj88kg there are child sacrifices in Africa https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x5Kk5lr_2_Q they cut corpses in pieces for witchcraft https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_njz8-FHhAo people killed because suspected of being vampires https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ho-xGJsdkA And its all not from being smart obviously, this deep superstition is due to low IQ.

Bernd 2023-10-25 10:36:01 ⋅ 1mn No. 292014

>>291968 maybe its just low oxygen levels, or genes specific for survival in high altitude. And living in mountains you need to live in commune, together with other people, so that maybe the reason they vote communist

Bernd 2023-11-06 18:30:54 ⋅ 1mn No. 293063

thats a pretty novel way of motivating people to speak english - "speak english, or burn in your bed!"

Bernd 2023-11-08 13:12:55 ⋅ 1mn No. 293163

stage

Bernd 2023-11-09 10:29:05 ⋅ 1mn No. 293219

RSF seem to be going after easy picking, making gains in Darfur to claim it as their fiefdom. They already been used in that region before, but now they just making it into their turf completelly? Now they could use it as the place to retreat to, to form parallel government, to split the country. Official government in Sudan is not really that official - its some Burhan, who wasn't elected and also leads the tranny-transitional council.

Bernd 2023-11-09 11:30:21 ⋅ 1mn No. 293220

why Sudan important? bcause its huge but it also means its hard to control all of this territory. If someone controls roads and can cut logistics between two controlled regions, tis hard to maintain control of the enclave Sudan also has borders with 7 countries and sea access, making it unique point of contention, many actors in the region could influence events there - if they wanna

Bernd 2023-11-09 11:35:23 ⋅ 1mn No. 293221

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2EaflX0MWRo

Bernd 2023-11-09 14:48:22 ⋅ 1mn No. 293224

>>293220 Sudan is also on the Eastern end of Sahel region.

Bernd 2023-11-10 08:53:56 ⋅ 4w No. 293281

Africa is so intresting because of its games of thrones Like i missed the whole Burundi thing, where they had so many political assasinations and even its previous president "died of COVID" in 55 years old and even before they had presidents killed >The president Melchior Ndadaye was taken to an office where ten junior officers—specifically assigned to the task—killed him. A coroner's report later found that Ndadaye was held by a cord around his neck while the soldiers bayoneted him 14 times. Half of the wounds penetrated his thorax and the subsequent bleeding filled up his lungs, killing him. Small country, big power plays

Bernd 2023-11-10 08:57:48 ⋅ 4w No. 293282

>>293224 yeah. and if Chad falls, its all going to be ogre

Bernd 2023-11-10 09:54:33 ⋅ 4w No. 293285

The age of the leader is crucial to the stability of the country. Old leader in the absence of strong institutions or public mistrust can lead to violent coups or hard transition. So lets see how old are African leaders. A lot of them are pushing 60-70

Bernd 2023-11-10 10:44:19 ⋅ 4w No. 293286

There are election in Madagascar happening next month. But the country is such a mess, its like somewhere in the past something gone so wrong...like in Flash from DC Supercomic universe, he goes to the past and fucks something up, and the whole timeline becomes fucked up beyond repair and the world ends, because it cannot exist without RESET. Madagascar is like that failed universe, that needs reset because of the monumental fuck ups in the past, but instead, it just exist in its cruel state of disrepair, repeating the trauma fuck madagascar

Bernd 2023-11-10 11:27:14 ⋅ 4w No. 293290

it always be like this You read the name of the group "Allied Democratic Forces" and think to yourself: >Allied - good, >democratic - great! They must be good guys. Right? but reality is much more...intresting

Bernd 2023-11-10 11:36:48 ⋅ 4w No. 293291

but its intresting why western media calls them "rebels" what kind of "rebels" attack schools, kill children and kidnap girls? maybe the magic of the name works, or maybe they want these "rebels" to take over Uganda

Bernd 2023-11-12 11:44:05 ⋅ 3w No. 293404

everyone is happy

Bernd 2023-11-18 23:16:35 ⋅ 3w No. 293809

Some countries simply not meant to be

Bernd 2023-11-20 20:13:18 ⋅ 2w No. 294016

apparently there is a special zone between Sudan and South Sudan called Abyei Area, that supposed to be governed by both countries with a little mission from UN called UNISFA recently the South Sudan was shooting there and killing people, even killing one UNISFA member

Bernd 2023-11-20 20:23:47 ⋅ 2w No. 294017

another point of contention is Ilemi triangle maybe for now its calm, but its like a mine or a time bomb untill its resolved

Bernd 2023-11-26 12:46:54 ⋅ 1w No. 294621

from nothing to nothing

Bernd 2023-11-26 12:49:56 ⋅ 1w No. 294622

who? gunmen as plural? Africa such a beautiful thing, there can just spawn gunmen. Just "gunmen mobs" appear out of the blue. These mysterious gunmen have no past, no goals or ideas, they just have "attack" button to press.

Bernd 2023-12-02 10:10:37 ⋅ 1w No. 295142

sick mad dogs

Bernd 2023-12-02 12:18:59 ⋅ 1w No. 295161

hello, black pakistan check? black pakistan check??

Bernd 2023-12-05 12:36:19 ⋅ 4d No. 295458

sorry, mistakes happen

Bernd 2023-12-07 17:44:17 ⋅ 2d No. 295642

intresting move