Bernd
2021-02-19 15:02:56 ⋅ 3y
No. 110284
Linux distros are now moving towards Wayland (built by Canonical) and major DE players planning on dropping support for X11, which can pretty much kill the graphical desktops on BSD and many reluctand distros
since Wayland relies pretty heavily on systemd (built by Red Hat), which no BSD distro and all the reluctant Linux distros doesn't have
does it mean, that once the support for X11 ends, we may expect, apart from forking, that some developers would move towards other OS projects, which exist outside of linux-systemd-wayland ecosystem
such as Haiku?
Bernd
2021-02-19 15:07:39 ⋅ 3y
No. 110285
>>110284
also did you know, that Redox (OS written from scratch in Rust) gained more funds in 2020, than Haiku?
picrelated
Bernd
2021-02-19 15:24:06 ⋅ 3y
No. 110286
But Wayland has been mostly written by red hat, canonical took ages until they gave up on mir.
Also soon there will be nvidia support for xwayland, so the last obstacle towards using it everywhere is gone.
Who cares about some random distro noone uses anyways, if they want to stick with Xorg they can, they just have to maintain it themselves.
Bernd
2021-02-19 16:27:07 ⋅ 3y
No. 110287
Irrelevant and obscurantist distros will continue to exist and brew their own alternatives to the systemd ecosystem. Maybe some will die, but some will persist. They are shit already anyway, so I don't worry about this.
Bernd
2021-02-19 18:46:23 ⋅ 3y
No. 110292
>>110287
>obscurantist distros
>They are shit already anyway
i use Artix with Plasma, and i wouldn't say it is any worse than Manjaro
Bernd
2021-02-19 21:56:31 ⋅ 3y
No. 110299
>>110292
Good for you if it works. Personally, I don’t care for Distros whose gimmick it is not to use systemd. I just pick whatever is most suitable for my use case from the most popular, best supported ones. Right now it’s Debian for me and kubuntu for my mum.
Bernd
2022-01-30 17:59:21 ⋅ 2y
No. 134024
>>110284
There are systemd free distros
Bernd
2022-01-30 18:52:05 ⋅ 2y
No. 134033
Why are Linux users such special snowflakes?
>mUH systemD
>muh Arch is better than Ubuntu
>muh Gnome is unusable, I prefer ratpoisonVM
I just pick whatever of the best supported ones fits my needs best. Usually Debian or Kubuntu or something and problems weren’t.
Bernd
2022-06-02 07:31:09 ⋅ 1y
No. 156483
Im pretty sure XFCE wont drop x11 any time soon and it works just fine in *BSD
Bernd
2022-06-02 08:04:38 ⋅ 1y
No. 156507
>>110284
>since Wayland relies pretty heavily on systemd (built by Red Hat), which no BSD distro and all the reluctant Linux distros doesn't have
IIRC Wayland was successfully ported to FreeBSD, and Gnome and KDE Plasma work fine. OpenBSD doesn't support Wayland but, ironically, Gnome (also Red Hat founded) still works with X11 while KDE Plasma doesn't. I don't know about other BSDs.
>>134033
We just like to complicate our lives :)
Bernd
2022-07-02 19:42:42 ⋅ 1y
No. 190958
>>110284
What is systemd and wayland?
Bernd
2022-07-22 10:48:28 ⋅ 1y
No. 201397
>>190958
Gentoo/Artix/Devuan fag? Bro I tried Artix and that shit is even more unstable than vanilla Arch lahmao.
soystemd is not that bad... /coping
Bernd
2022-07-23 08:04:04 ⋅ 1y
No. 201758
>>134033
For me... Arch is way easier than Debian based distros... idk... I tried Linux back in 2008 when I was 13.. it was with Ubuntu 9.04 I do believe, then when they release 10.04 I switched to Fedora but did no tlike it so I hopped to Arch and never looked back... It is so simple and ez. At some point back in 2020 I tried Artix and I did like it but I had have problems due SoystemD then I switched to SolusOS which is great but the lack of binaries and the fact that I do not have time to compile and maintain .eopkg bins... made me switch back to Arch.
Arch is simple and even a dumb monkey can handle it, that is why, I bet, VALVe switched from Ubuntu to Arch for its 3rd SteamOS version.
Arch is so damn simple.
Bernd
2022-08-13 19:49:50 ⋅ 1y
No. 217539
>>110284
Bump.