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Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 21:34:53 ⋅ 1mn No. 124590
Friendly reminder to go outside. Today I met a friend at a bar and she brought a friend who brought another friend. And this friend was very special. For the first time in my life I could talk with someone in real life about absolutely kc tier topics like the vasconic substrate theory, pronunciation of Ancient Greek and cuneiform script, among other things. Thoe whole evening was stressful for an introvert and there was some annoying discussion about gender and language where I spilled a bunch of spaghetti beforehand, but all the trouble was worth it because then this person arrived and we had plenty of serious discussions.
New Zealand Bernd 2021-10-11 21:37:23 ⋅ 1mn No. 124591
Two Sundays in a row while I was busy sipping on an energy drink and eating some crisps, I was accosted by a schizophrenic sperg who kept eyeing me up and down like a piece of meat. He seemed alright but there was something other than socialization he wanted and I can't provide that sort of eros.
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 21:41:52 ⋅ 1mn No. 124592
>>124591 Protect your bp.
New Zealand Bernd 2021-10-11 21:52:43 ⋅ 1mn No. 124594
>>124592 A Newfoundlander once told me the safest way to protect your pooper around gomos is to either pretend to shit yourself or genuinely soil your trousers. Then I inquired how he came about this knowledge and he replied about his father telling him when he was a young boy, about the dangers of hitchhiking and gomos. I've yet to practice this technique, but I'm sure it will come in handy one day.
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 22:11:04 ⋅ 1mn No. 124596
>>124594 I was told it is useless to keep your ass to the wall if you let your mouth open during sleep.
Slovenia Bernd 2021-10-11 22:13:45 ⋅ 1mn No. 124597
>>124590 >the vasconic substrate theory Wanna hear my opinion of it? First let's name some facts: funnily enough, Basque are no more WHG or EEF than surrounding populations – their genetic differentiation from the rest is a result of development since the Iron Age onwards: https://hal.archives-ouvertes.fr/pasteur-03199264 Now consider the older fringe theory (Dumézil most prominently) that the Basque languages are related to the languages of Caucasus: http://euskararenjatorria.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/Euskaro_Caucasian_2_pp.pdf Well, I'm personally inclined to believe that Basque are actually a language from the northern foothills of Caucasus (Circassia), that was carried into Europe alongside their neighbouring Indo-European; that is, that the Yamnaya and Corded Ware cultures were, in fact, NOT monolingual, and that proto-Basque was one of the languages that entered Europe this way. This is similar to how Magyars invaded Europe, alongside other, mostly Turkic-speaking groups, despite their language not being Turkic they were part of the same migration.
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 22:26:15 ⋅ 1mn No. 124600
>>124597 Whatever you wrote there is not an opinion of the vasconic substrate theory.
Slovenia Bernd 2021-10-11 22:41:34 ⋅ 1mn No. 124608
>>124600 It is, because the key proposition to Vasconic substrate theory is that Vasconic languages were already spoken when IE speakers arrived.
Germany Bernd 2021-10-11 22:57:27 ⋅ 1mn No. 124617
>>124608 ...so you're proposing there was actually a Sprachbund instead of a substrate based on genetics?
Slovenia Bernd 2021-10-11 23:27:42 ⋅ 1mn No. 124629
>>124617 Vennemann doesn't really have anything else than some toponymy and base-20 counting system to support his hypothesis. While yes – toponymy is indeed substrate – simply seeing a sequence as basic as "ar(a)n" in different places and claiming it must come from basque word "haran" (especially: note how his Val d'Aran, Arntal, never have that initial h- which is IMPORTANT in Basque – "aran" is a plum) is hardly an argument. The rest of the claims are mostly the same thing too. But, yes, base-20 counting is a clear sprachbund thing. Same with the couple words he names that are shared with Celtic and Germanic – they're mostly related to iron age technologies, so likely wanderwords related to spread of tech (just like how industrial tech terms all over the world can be traced to various European languages).
Germany Bernd 2021-10-12 00:24:48 ⋅ 1mn No. 124647
>>124629 Not very interesting criticism tbh.
New Zealand Bernd 2021-10-12 00:35:15 ⋅ 1mn No. 124649
Aren't there certain pockets in Europe that have a closer genetic link to Basque? Wouldn't it be wiser to eliminate the influence of Latin and other languages that proceeded their arrival and colonisation to figure out where they developed their language and from whom they delineated from?